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Greatest I am
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Message 1 of 237 (773926)
12-10-2015 8:52 PM


With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?

Much has been written of how Muslim demographics will eventually make Europe and many other white nations Muslim nations in the future. They and other darker races are reproducing a lot more than the whites.

Our politicians are trying to maintain our populations through immigration and as we can see in Europe, this is not doing the white race any good at all.

Why are none of our white governments not offering more incentives for whites to have more children?

Sure, some Western governments offer small incentives in terms of baby bonuses and the odd few thousand dollars for more children but not nearly what it is costing our countries to bring in immigrants to fill our demographic needs.

Many in Europe are saying that our politicians have sold out to Muslims. Meanwhile a man like Trump can gain what seems to be a lot of support for a harder line against immigration. Canadians seem to be going in that same direction.

It seems to me, if I was a politician, my war cry, if you will, would be for my white constituents to pull up their socks, pull off their birth control devices, and do their duty to the white race by reproducing more. While at the same time, I would tax those who do not contribute babies that much more than those who do reproduce and basically transfer those funds to help those who are producing babies in a more generous way so as to encourage those parents to have and be able to afford more babies.

Many whites are feeling squeezed and seem to be becoming more anti the other race. Not too surprising as becoming a minority is something we are not used to and when we look about and see how other minorities are treated, I can see why many would not want to be in a minority.

Why are white governments not promoting more white births instead of more immigration?

Why are white people not fighting the trends that are making us a quickly disappearing race?

Are whites so self-centered that we will eventually all loose our countries to those of other colors?

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Message 3 of 237 (773942)
12-11-2015 8:53 AM
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12-10-2015 8:52 PM


With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?

Because its paranoid, racist and ultimately meaningless.

Our politicians are trying to maintain our populations through immigration and as we can see in Europe, this is not doing the white race any good at all.

If white people would educate themselves to be doctors and construction workers rather than bankers, lawyers, marketers and call centre operatives we might not need foreign workers to plug gaps.

In the meantime, its doing us lots of good. I have a doctor and a dentist courtesy of immigration policy.

Why are none of our white governments not offering more incentives for whites to have more children?

Because
a - its racist
b - its illegal
c it would render you unelectable because the white people reject it as disgusting

... it is costing our countries to bring in immigrants to fill our demographic needs.

That's to our profit, not to our cost.

Many in Europe are saying that our politicians have sold out to Muslims. Meanwhile a man like Trump can gain what seems to be a lot of support for a harder line against immigration.

Many in Europe once said that about Jews.

It seems to me, if I was a politician, my war cry, if you will, would be for my white constituents to pull up their socks, pull off their birth control devices, and do their duty to the white race by reproducing more.

Try the BNP or EDL then, there is little stopping you from running. Pony up the deposit.

While at the same time, I would tax those who do not contribute babies that much more than those who do reproduce and basically transfer those funds to help those who are producing babies in a more generous way so as to encourage those parents to have and be able to afford more babies.

Because we need more underskilled and undereducated people to justify our job centres?

I'm curious as to whether you've thought about the structure of the tax?

Many whites are feeling squeezed and seem to be becoming more anti the other race.

Yes, I see.

Why are white governments not promoting more white births instead of more immigration?

Because they'd lose their jobs.

Why are white people not fighting the trends that are making us a quickly disappearing race?

We aren't a quickly disappearing race. And I don't think we care what the proportion of white people is in the future.

It's this kind of of ethnic groupishness that has caused all manner of trouble throughout the world.

Are whites so self-centered that we will eventually all loose our countries to those of other colors?

That seems the very opposite of self centred. It would be self centred of white people to start panicking, shutting down our borders and instituting a Hitler-esque Aryan breeding scheme.


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12-11-2015 9:04 AM


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Message 5 of 237 (773945)
12-11-2015 9:59 AM
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12-10-2015 8:52 PM


That flies in the face of evidence which shows that, while fertility rates have historically been significantly higher among Muslims, birth rates are now dropping among Muslim immigrant populations in Europe and in Muslim countries.

A 2007 study by demographers Charles Westhoff and Tomas Frejka identified the same trend among Muslim immigrant populations in most countries where data was available, including Austria, Slovenia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and England and Wales.

The total fertility rate among Muslim women is almost always higher than that of the native population, but with the passage of time Muslim fertility moves closer to the fertility of the majority of the population in the respective countries.

In this country, the study tracks changing fertility rates among women from Pakistan and Bangladesh (assumed to be overwhelmingly Muslim).

Women from Pakistan and Bangladesh tend to have more children, but the fertility gap shrinks over the decades.

The US Pew Forum think-tank predicts that this gap will continue to diminish in the coming decades in all European countries.

http://blogs.channel4.com/...a-muslim-majority-by-2050/13690


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Message 6 of 237 (773948)
12-11-2015 10:49 AM
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12-10-2015 8:52 PM


Greatest I am writes:

Why are white governments not promoting more white births instead of more immigration?


In Canada, out government is pinto.

Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote.


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Message 7 of 237 (773977)
12-11-2015 4:29 PM
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12-10-2015 8:52 PM


Most of your post can be dismissed with the simple comment that I don't care whether 'the white race' is increasing or decreasing in numbers, because it's not 1903.

But there is some confusion of category I want to quickly point out. 'Muslim' is not a race. It's a religion, and Muslims come in all sorts of colours, including white (or pink, really, but you know what I mean).


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Message 8 of 237 (773981)
12-11-2015 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
12-10-2015 8:52 PM


With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?

Because we are busy trying to figure out how to encourage dimwits not to reproduce.

Are whites so self-centered that we will eventually all loose our countries to those of other colors?

Oh, the irony......


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Message 9 of 237 (773986)
12-11-2015 8:51 PM


yet another moronic topic it seems
Every child who ever played with a prism knows that white is actually the sum of all the colors.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 10 of 237 (773990)
12-12-2015 1:41 AM
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12-10-2015 8:52 PM


Race and ideology are not synonymous
Much has been written of how Muslim demographics will eventually make Europe and many other white nations Muslim nations in the future. They and other darker races are reproducing a lot more than the whites.

Ummm, I'd like to point out that Muslims are not a "race," let alone a "darker race," it's a religion and many of its practitioners are...... *wait for it*.... white.

Now, it's no mystery that many hardline Muslim immigrants in Europe have openly stated that they don't necessarily need force to take over Europe; that in a few decades they'll simply breed themselves into power.

There may be some truth to that in the sense that the European rate of fertility is extremely low. Japan is having a bit of a crisis because there are essentially missing generations. The ratio of elderly to young people is becoming extremely lopsided, which is straining an already dwindling working class.

But I digress because those are Asians, or as you might like to call them, "yellow people." In any case, they aren't "white people," and because of that you could care less.

Many in Europe are saying that our politicians have sold out to Muslims. Meanwhile a man like Trump can gain what seems to be a lot of support for a harder line against immigration.

The patronizingly liberal nature of many European nations for a long time refused to even acknowledge that there was a violent strain of Islam because to acknowledge it would be politically incorrect and racist. This was a huge mistake and they're paying for it now.

But what often happens in that vacuum rises a strain of xenophobic, racism such as, well, YOU and Trump. The inaction of the far left tends to create the proliferation of extreme rightwing radicals. And in the end, people like you and Trump fall right into the hands of groups like ISIS by doing EXACTLY what they want you to do... which is alienate all Muslims so that more and more become radicalized.

Looks like they've outsmarted you again.


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Message 11 of 237 (774021)
12-12-2015 11:41 AM
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12-10-2015 8:52 PM


Greatest I am writes:

Are whites so self-centered that we will eventually all loose our countries to those of other colors?


We stole this continent from the brown people. Now we're bringing in more brown people to replace them (and us). I, for one, appreciate the irony.
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Greatest I am
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Message 12 of 237 (774045)
12-12-2015 1:58 PM
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12-11-2015 8:53 AM


Modulous

Thanks for this.

I do not think it racist for a predominantly white country to try to retain it's ethnic or racial identity.

I did not think it racist when Quebec and other governments give incentives to it's citizens to reproduce more.

Why do you?

Regards
DL


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Message 13 of 237 (774047)
12-12-2015 2:03 PM
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12-11-2015 9:59 AM


Tangle

No argument.

I recognize that over time immigrants move towards the same birth trends as the host country. This does not take away from the fact that their initial human contribution and subsequent ongoing immigration will eventually change the fabric of the nation because they reproduce more initially.

That is why many do not like the idea of Muslim immigration because of Sharia encroaching on the original political system.

Regards
DL


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Message 14 of 237 (774048)
12-12-2015 2:05 PM
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12-11-2015 10:49 AM


ringo

So are most and I admit that I should have said that governments should give incentives to all of it's citizens.

My bad.

My question was trying to focus more on immigration and not the colors we already have in the country.

Regards
DL


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Message 15 of 237 (774049)
12-12-2015 2:08 PM
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12-11-2015 4:29 PM


caffeine

Granted but to not care about the white part of the human race when it is responsible for the best social systems we have devised is rather strange.

People usually try to retain the best and not see it replaced by something less.

Regards
DL


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