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Author Topic:   Evolution. We Have The Fossils. We Win.
Dr Adequate
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Message 271 of 2887 (769963)
09-27-2015 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 255 by Faith
09-26-2015 12:58 PM


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I'm sorry but if there is anything to your complaint you will have to explain it again. I did say I often forget former arguments. Thank you.
The fossils are evidence before they are interpreted, because they can be compared to prediction. In order to misunderstand this point, you are turning the scientific method backwards and upside down.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 272 of 2887 (772424)
11-13-2015 9:46 PM


Probrachylophosaurus
Here:
A previously undiscovered dinosaur species, first uncovered and documented by an adjunct professor at Montana State University, showcases an evolutionary transition from an earlier duckbilled species to that group's descendants [...] Their findings highlight how the new species of duckbilled dinosaur neatly fills a gap that had existed between an ancestral form with no crest and a descendant with a larger crest, providing key insight into the evolution of elaborate display structures in these gigantic extinct herbivores.
Still no sign of a talking snake, though.

  
Big_Al35
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Message 273 of 2887 (773968)
12-11-2015 2:12 PM


You have the fossils?
Do you have the fossils of giant human beings that have been found all over the earth? Did we shrink?

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Message 274 of 2887 (773969)
12-11-2015 2:16 PM
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12-11-2015 2:12 PM


Do you have the fossils of giant human beings that have been found all over the earth?
No one has them. They don't exist.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Big_Al35
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Message 275 of 2887 (773988)
12-12-2015 12:16 AM
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12-11-2015 2:16 PM


Theodoric writes:
No one has them. They don't exist.
So the images of giant bones I see on the internet (which look convincing) are all fake?

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Message 276 of 2887 (773989)
12-12-2015 1:18 AM
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12-12-2015 12:16 AM


So the images of giant bones I see on the internet (which look convincing) are all fake?
They're not fake. Neither are they from giant humans which was your statement. As bones of dinosrians and giant reptilians they're real, but you knew that. You're trolling, again, Big_Al.

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Message 277 of 2887 (773992)
12-12-2015 2:09 AM
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12-12-2015 1:18 AM


Big writes:
So the images of giant bones I see on the internet (which look convincing) are all fake?
AZPaul3 writes:
They're not fake.
Actually there are a bunch of faked images of giant human bones on the internet. If Big_Al35 wants an answer about some specific images, he's going to have to give us a pointer.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 278 of 2887 (773993)
12-12-2015 2:10 AM
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12-12-2015 12:16 AM


So the images of giant bones I see on the internet (which look convincing) are all fake?
You'd have to post them to be sure, but I've seen a lot of photoshopped "giant" bones all over the internet.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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AZPaul3
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Message 279 of 2887 (773994)
12-12-2015 3:08 AM
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12-12-2015 2:09 AM


Actually there are a bunch of faked images of giant human bones on the internet.
I know some weird people who mistake, maybe willingly, dinosaur bones as giant human bones for religious reasons. But they are not human bones. I hadn't even considered these same weirdos photoshopping or creating giant human bones as hoax.
Is Big_Al naive enough to actually think they are real? Do I owe Big_Al an apology?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 280 of 2887 (773995)
12-12-2015 3:43 AM
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12-12-2015 3:08 AM


Is Big_Al naive enough to actually think they are real? Do I owe Big_Al an apology?
Not sure if he's trolling or just really naive

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Big_Al35
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Message 281 of 2887 (773997)
12-12-2015 6:05 AM
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12-12-2015 3:08 AM


AZPaul3 writes:
I know some weird people who mistake, maybe willingly, dinosaur bones as giant human bones for religious reasons.
Well if you can have giant lizards, why not have giant humans.

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Message 282 of 2887 (773998)
12-12-2015 6:16 AM
Reply to: Message 281 by Big_Al35
12-12-2015 6:05 AM


Big Al writes:
Well if you can have giant lizards, why not have giant humans.
If we can have tiny mice, why not have tiny humans?
They're not outragious questions, it's simply that we know there haven't been any. "We have the fossils." If we'd found fossils and bones of giants, science would have had no problem accepting them.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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AZPaul3
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Message 283 of 2887 (774000)
12-12-2015 6:47 AM
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12-12-2015 6:05 AM


Well if you can have giant lizards, why not have giant humans.
I don't know. But that wasn't your question.
Your question was
quote:
So the images of giant bones I see on the internet (which look convincing) are all fake?
And the answer is that they are either dino bones being misrepresented as human or, yes, they are fake as part of a hoax.
No giant humans ever existed and the reason we know this gets us back to the title of this thread.

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JonF
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Message 284 of 2887 (774001)
12-12-2015 7:48 AM
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12-12-2015 6:05 AM


There's a widely known "square-cube" law. As size increases, the surface area goes up by the square of the change and the mass goes up by the cube of the change. "surface area" includes things like the cross-section, i.e. strength, of bones. So there is a point at which you just can't have that big a human with human anatomy and capable of standing up without breaking bones.
Figuring out how big that would be is probably not practical, but there is a limit.

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JonF
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Message 285 of 2887 (774002)
12-12-2015 7:50 AM



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