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Author Topic:   With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?
Greatest I am
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Message 151 of 237 (774943)
12-25-2015 12:13 PM
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12-17-2015 4:42 PM


Re: Moderator Provided Information
Admin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbF6XfC2X0o
It seems that the experts do not quite agree with you.
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DL

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Message 152 of 237 (774944)
12-25-2015 12:15 PM
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12-17-2015 4:47 PM


Genomicus
IOW. You spoke out of turn and cannot back what you said.
Give credit to all but the whites. That is really honest.
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Message 153 of 237 (774945)
12-25-2015 12:19 PM
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12-17-2015 11:15 PM


Jon
Sure, we can all drive but it seems a white guy had to invent the car.
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Message 154 of 237 (774947)
12-25-2015 12:21 PM
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12-18-2015 11:13 AM


ringo
We did not have all the social programs that we pay for today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_lhlIn1e0
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Message 155 of 237 (774948)
12-25-2015 12:37 PM
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12-19-2015 11:59 PM


Hyroglyphx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbF6XfC2X0o
Why should I not be proud of what I am?
That aside, I promote loyalty to those who have given us our best systems. I do not take pride in having created them.
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Message 156 of 237 (774949)
12-25-2015 12:57 PM
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12-21-2015 5:12 PM


Re: Question on the OP
Coyote
Whites are called Caucasian.
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Message 157 of 237 (774950)
12-25-2015 1:05 PM
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12-22-2015 3:32 PM


Omnivorous
Our government should actively insure that all of it's citizens, regardless of color, are aware of the benefits to the country that their reproducing will bring.
A citizen knowing his duty is always a good idea.
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Message 158 of 237 (774951)
12-25-2015 1:07 PM
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12-22-2015 4:24 PM


Modulous
No. Please read my post just above.
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Message 159 of 237 (774953)
12-25-2015 2:31 PM
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12-25-2015 12:57 PM


Re: Question on the OP
Whites are called Caucasian.
Ummm, no.
This may come as a surprise to you, but not all Caucasians are white.
I had a graduate school class in Human Races a while back, and under the original three-part classification, North Africa and the Middle East, extending through almost all of India, were classified as Caucasians. The people in some of those areas are far from "white" although they were classified as Caucasians.
Incidentally, not all those with black skin are Africans either.
Its a very complex and interesting subject, of which you might learn something.

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If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
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"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 160 of 237 (774955)
12-25-2015 3:42 PM
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12-25-2015 1:05 PM


GIA writes:
Our government should actively insure that all of it's citizens, regardless of color, are aware of the benefits to the country that their reproducing will bring.
Best, I think, if government stays out of the reproductive lives of citizens altogether.
States have sterilized people, denied them access to birth control, forced abortions, banned abortions and forbade some people from reproducing together. States and reproduction don't mix well.
There's a legitimate state interest in insuring that citizens know how babies are made and how they're raised well. Other than that, government should serve the people it's got, not the getting of particular kinds. All political camps should be wary of opening that door.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Message 161 of 237 (774957)
12-25-2015 3:56 PM
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12-25-2015 2:31 PM


Re: Question on the OP
This may come as a surprise to you, but not all Caucasians are white.
Obviously the OP is using the common idea that we encounter all the time on official forms to identify our "race" and on those forms "white" is usually designated "Caucasian." That's how we all understand it and there's no need for all this sciencey pedantry, it just confuses things.

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Message 162 of 237 (774958)
12-25-2015 4:04 PM


Using the casual idea of the white race there really has been a serious reduction in the "white" population just through the emphasis on reducing family size that we all encountered decades ago. It was some sort of offense to have more than two children, to replace each parent and no more, and this thinking came out of the idea of a population explosion put forth by Malthusians. Perhaps the "government" didn't push this idea, I don't know, but it was a very effective influence. The only people who took this truly seriously were the "white" race (the Protestants anyway since Catholics were always encouraged to have many children), and the result has been the serious reduction in the white population as compared with others who don't accept those principles.

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Message 163 of 237 (774959)
12-25-2015 4:17 PM
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12-25-2015 3:56 PM


Re: Question on the OP
Obviously the OP is using the common idea that we encounter all the time on official forms to identify our "race" and on those forms "white" is usually designated "Caucasian." That's how we all understand it and there's no need for all this sciencey pedantry, it just confuses things.
Sorry if facts confuse you, but some folks have actually researched these topics and know a little about them.
The OP was conflating two separate things because "white" is not the same as Caucasian.
White is a skin color, while Caucasian is a racial classification developed mainly by anthropologists over 100 years ago. The two are not the same, as I pointed out there are many Caucasians who are not "white."
And "white" is a problematic term anyway. Like most classical racial traits, skin color is found in clines ranging from very light to very dark, with some interesting variants (such as Bushmen).

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 164 of 237 (774960)
12-25-2015 4:20 PM
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12-25-2015 4:17 PM


Re: Question on the OP
Yeah yeah yeah, but all that pedantic information is just a way of distracting from the simple use of the term in the OP that we are ALL familiar with.

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Message 165 of 237 (774961)
12-25-2015 4:27 PM
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12-25-2015 4:20 PM


Re: Question on the OP
If you want to be a bit more accurate, use "European," one of nine racial classifications developed by Stanley Garn.
Stanley Marion Garn - Wikipedia
Or if you want to be more specific, Garn further subdivided those nine into 34 subgroups.
It's all just a game. You can make as many or as few groups as you like, depending on the traits you select and how you weight them, and it still means nothing. Making more groups and you're just slicing the baloney thinner.
Edited by Coyote, : Grammar

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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