Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka?

Greatest I am writes: But why do you think that governments are forbidding smoking even where the smoke would not offend or reach people?

if they are, they shouldn't be.

Greatest I am writes: Do you still think that the law should ignore the 75% just to appease the 25% whose indoctrination tells them that their invisible and absentee God wants them to cover their heads and faces?

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.... The answer doesn't change just because you repeat the question.

The majority does not have a right to oppress the minority, period.

Tangle writes: We've done this, we're not only discussing the hijab.

I mention the hijab and you respond to the burqa. That's dishonest.

There is a fundamental difference between the hijab and the niqab/burqa. The niqab/burqa present problems of identification, the hijab does not. So let's decide whether or not it's acceptable to ban the hijab and then we can move on.

Tangle writes: ringo writes: I've never seen a burqa in my life That is, of course, totally irrelevant.

It's thoroughly relevant. Identification issues are separate from forced assimilation issues. The burqa represents both, the hijab only one. So let's deal with the forced assimilation issue first and then we can move on.

Tangle writes: No one is going to be prosecuted for ownership or dealing in burkas no matter how many they have. You get the difference?

How do you propose to enforce the prohibition from wearing them in public without some form of sanction?

ringo writes: I mention the hijab and you respond to the burqa. That's dishonest. There is a fundamental difference between the hijab and the niqab/burqa. The niqab/burqa present problems of identification

No shit?

So let's decide whether or not it's acceptable to ban the hijab and then we can move on.

No let's not. Instead why don't you reread this this thread and count the number of times that I've told you that there is no fucking problem with the hijab - as far as bans are concerned. And while your there, perhaps you can also get a grip of when I say burka/burqa or full-face covering or head to foot bag with an eye slit, I'm not referring to a hijab. Ffs.

How do you propose to enforce the prohibition from wearing them in public without some form of sanction?

This is becoming idiotic. As ever, you deliberately misinterpret, dodge and otherwise behave disingenuously when you find yourself in trouble.

I'll leave you to it for a while.

Tangle writes: Instead why don't you reread this this thread and count the number of times that I've told you that there is no fucking problem with the hijab - as far as bans are concerned.

You could take your own advice and count how many times I've mentioned the niqab/burqa as opposed to the hijab. I say hijab and you respond to niqab/burqa. If you don't disagree with what I'm saying about the hijab, you can stop arguing with what I'm saying about the hijab.

Tangle writes: ringo writes: How do you propose to enforce the prohibition from wearing them in public without some form of sanction? This is becoming idiotic.

So you have no answer.

Why don't you answer the argument instead?

Let me do that again just for you :

Indeed! It's well known that the the hijab, niqab and burka are damaging to your health and to the health of those around you.

Bliyaal writes: Why don't you answer the argument instead?

Because it's already been answered and I have a low tolerance of repetition and the deliberate distortion of arguments for argument sake alone.

If you genuinely want to understand the reasons why the burqa and niqab (but not the bloody hijab - got it yet?) have been banned I suggest you read the thread. If you want to twist analogies and create false positions, I'm not interested.

Because it's already been answered and I have a low tolerance of repetition and the deliberate distortion of arguments for argument sake alone. If you genuinely want to understand the reasons why the burqa and niqab (but not the bloody hijab - got it yet?) have been banned I suggest you read the thread. If you want to twist analogies and create false positions, I'm not interested.

You're the one insisting that the thread is about burqa, niqab and, yes, hijab.

You're also the one trying to make a link between smoking and wearing a hijab/niqab/burqa while calling others on supposed bad analogies. Maybe you could explain why it's relevant.

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ringo

Seems you are wrong as it happens in many countries now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5mixM0gChI

Regards
DL

Greatest I am writes: Seems you are wrong as it happens in many countries now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5mixM0gChI

Stop trying to argue by bare links. If you have a point, make it.

I just did.

Regards
D

Greatest I am writes: ringo writes: Stop trying to argue by bare links. If you have a point, make it. I just did.

What was it?

Closing this one down for now.... the attacks are becoming too personal.

Argue the position, not the person.

Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.