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Message 226 of 237 (775083)
12-27-2015 9:25 AM


Two Moderation Requests
  • Please get on topic. The recent discussion about the nature of God based upon selected Biblical accounts should cease. Arguments about how much or little various forms of Christianity contributed to western European countries' success as world powers and economic engines should also cease

  • Don't be personal. Your fellow members are not the topic of this thread. I know this can be difficult sometimes. For example, someone might relate their conversion story, and so subsequent posts become about them, and if some of those posts become personally insulting then it violates the Forum Guidelines. Treat your fellow members with respect. Attack the arguments, the rationale, the data, the evidence - not the person.

I've also seen a great many posts that consist only of "declarations of what I think is true" with little or no supporting evidence or argument, not just here but in several threads. If you're about to post a message that has around three or less sentences, consider for a moment whether it contains enough substance to justify adding it to a rational and sober discussion.


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Message 227 of 237 (775105)
12-28-2015 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Faith
12-23-2015 4:09 PM


Re: Beware of the Islamic Principle of Taquiya
Faith writes:

What you were referring to before was Paul's list of the fruits of the Spirit, not the same thing.


The beatitudes and the gifts of the spirit are definitely related. My point is that the Muslims I know are exhibiting the gifts of the spirit more than many professing Christians.

Faith writes:

... even a slight knowledge of what Islam teaches should give you pause.


I'm more interested in what Muslims practice than in what you preach about them.
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Message 228 of 237 (775106)
12-28-2015 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by Greatest I am
12-25-2015 12:21 PM


Greatest I am writes:

We did not have all the social programs that we pay for today.


The post you're replying to said:
quote:
My grandparents were immigrants. They didn't impoverish Canada, they enriched it.

How is your reply in any way related to what I said?
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Message 229 of 237 (775131)
12-28-2015 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by anglagard
12-26-2015 10:20 PM


Re: A Few Answers
Not quite as all over the world as it seems you make it out to be.

Well, that seems to be a graphic representation of the global distribution I described in words, so I'm unsure what your point is.

If your cousin was using his genetics test to resolve a question of recent family history, then fair play. For this purpose such tests can be useful.

My criticism was aimed more at what I'm guessing was the material supplied by the genetics testing company to describe your distant genealogy. There is absolutely no way to determine where your ancestor 30,000 years ago lived, and the Ukraine, as I said, seems to be pulled out of nowhere, since the most popular hypotheses for the origins of Y-chromosone haplogroup R1 among geneticists seem to be the Middle East and South Asia. These, too, are of course highly speculative hypotheses, since there are a multitude of ways to explain this distribution.

More importantly, a y-chromosone test can only tell you about one ancestral line. When you're talking time periods like 30,000 years, your ancestry consists of billions upon billions of ancestral lines. The chance that any specific end point contributed any DNA to you (with, in this case, the obvious exception of the Y-chromosone) is infinitesimally small.

I didn't mean to have a go at you, so sorry if it sounded like that, but I find the marketing of genetics testing companies very frustrating.


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Message 230 of 237 (775223)
12-30-2015 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 222 by Faith
12-27-2015 1:50 AM


Faith

Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over thembring them here and kill them in front of me.

This is just one of a number of quotes that show the same mindset.

Yahweh's ways have always been, --- my way or die.

Allah is just cut from the same cloth.

Regards
DL


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Message 231 of 237 (775224)
12-30-2015 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by Faith
12-27-2015 2:27 AM


Faith

The bible has many instances where innocent children and babies are murdered for no good reason.

The first born of Egypt, those in the great flood just happen to be when the numbers were the largest.

How many innocent babies does your God need to kill before you re recognize his satanic ways?

Regards
DL


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Message 232 of 237 (775225)
12-30-2015 11:11 AM
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12-28-2015 10:50 AM


ringo

Listen to what songwriters are saying of who is impoverishing who.

Your grandparents pulled their own weight and did not rely on others to pull his weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_lhlIn1e0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZlo0WZ_iU&feature=youtu.be

Catchy little ditties. No?

Regards
DL


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Message 233 of 237 (775229)
12-30-2015 11:27 AM
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12-30-2015 11:11 AM


Greatest I am Suspended One Week
You're again doing the same thing I've cautioned you about twice now (see Message 218 and Message 226). See you next week.

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Message 234 of 237 (775242)
12-30-2015 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Greatest I am
12-30-2015 11:11 AM


Greatest I am writes:

Your grandparents pulled their own weight and did not rely on others to pull his weight.


My grandparents received help from the community just like immigrants do today. Community help happens to be more organized today, on a provincial and national level, but there isn't more of it than there was in the past.
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Message 235 of 237 (775243)
12-30-2015 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by ringo
12-30-2015 2:15 PM


Lynx
Those two song links were quite racist, by the way. spoiler alert!

As far as encouraging "white" births...I say we should ask ourselves globally if we should encourage any births---given the current global population.

Perhaps we the people need to focus on ourselves this next year and not be so nosy meddling into the affairs of others.

I know I have a list of New Years Resolutions....


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain

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Message 236 of 237 (775248)
12-30-2015 2:32 PM
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12-30-2015 2:20 PM


Re: Lynx
Phat writes:

As far as encouraging "white" births...I say we should ask ourselves globally if we should encourage any births---given the current global population.


I don't "encourage" births but I expect they're going to happen anyway. I do encourage immigration instead of "white" births.
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Message 237 of 237 (775258)
12-30-2015 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by ringo
12-30-2015 2:32 PM


Birth Control
I'd say that the cellphone--among other modern gadgets---is a great birth control device. If people can get the warm fuzzies simply by texting each other,they never get close enough to reproduce. This explains why poorer people have higher birth rates. They stay home more and dont have jobs in order to afford cellphones.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain

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