Jesus and his sacrifice is Satan’s test of man’s morality.

Just a thought about that word 'word', that word 'word' should be 'wisdom'. When these four gospels are harmonized, here is where John comes into play in the overall context of the story being told. Remember Satan has his chance at tempting the second Adam, the first Adam failed. This wisdom is not logos.Then Satan left Yeshua; and lo, angels came, and ministered to him. Wisdom was in the beginning, and that very wisdom was with Yahweh, and Yahweh was that wisdom. Wisdom was in the beginning with Yahweh. Everything came to be by Yahweh’s hand; and without Yahweh, not even one thing that was created came to be. The life is in Yahweh, that life is the light of men.
Wisdom was indeed in the beginning with Yahweh, Proverbs 8:22-26. Wisdom recounts her creation and her presence during the creation of the world. She was the very first of God’s creations. ‘Created me’ wisdom existed from eternity and was coeval with God. Some Christian groups identified wisdom with the Logos, which was in turn identified with The Christ. It is , however clear from v.23 that wisdom is a created being. Wisdom declares that she was present when God produced the inhabited world. This wisdom is a cool research.

Then why are they in disagreement? I'll agree that the Bible is the word of God to the extent that we can learn about Him, and have our hearts touched by Him through the words of the Bible, but not when we read it the way you do.IMHO your method of understanding scripture provides a warped view of God. Jesus was a Jew who taught His followers through the words of the Hebrew Scriptures, correcting them when necessary but focusing on the aspects that reflected God's true nature which is always loving, kind, just and merciful but never cruel and certainly never genocidal. So yes, we need the OT to understand Jesus in His culture but we need Jesus to separate what is of God and what isn't in the OT. But there are none that justify genocide. If it can be justified then how do we know that it isn't God's will that we should nuke into oblivion Islamic countries today? It is because of Jesus that we know it is wrong but with an inerrant Bible we can't know as God was like that then so He very well could be like that again now.The differences are irreconcilable. It isn't God that you are know and trust. Your trust is in an inerrant Bible. IMHO you have made an idol out of the Bible, and again IMHO if you believe that God is capable of genocide and public stonings then I would also humbly suggest that you don't know Him at all.

If this is true, why doesn't everyone see it? Also explain to me how you personally know that God is real, how you came to this conclusion in your life(time&place) and what your 3 top sources of inspiration are...We challenge each other and ask each other questions like this quite often here at EvC>

You keep wanting to put things in neat little boxes. Yes it is about faith, but not simply faith in a particular set of doctrines. Read the sermon on the mount or Matthew 25. It is about faith in all that is good so that our hearts respond to love and goodness and ultimately so that is reflected in our lives. If you want to worship a sometimes genocidal and sometimes cruel god then you are obviously free to do so. What that says to me is that you have turned Christianity inside out and made it all about you. You will worship Him, even though He is capable of evil as it will get you on His good side.It is actually very similar to the situation with the pagan gods of Jesus' time. People would worship them just because they believed they were god and weren't really concerned with the nature of any of their gods but it was in their best interest to be on the right side of them.

I grew up in Cheyenne WY, just up the road from you. Spent over 30 trying to harmonize the four gospels, this writing needs work, but I forgot the password and cannot get back into it to work on it.The Tree Of Life

Here are some interesting points, these mighty men, the men of renown. The explanation of the origin of the Greek mythology, that mythology was no mere invention of the human brain. But it grew out of the traditions, and memories, and legends of the doings of that mighty race of beings, and was gradually evolved out of the ‘heroes’ of Gen. 6:4. There are huge building under water off the coast of Japan.

Those boxes are overall context, contexts that should be understood? Israel walk by sight, the way that faith work for them is not the faith of the age of grace. In the age of grace we walk by faith, because what the last Adam accomplished is a done deal when a person is sealed in the last Adam. Sounds like you are trying to do good works?

If that's the case then how do you reconcile prophecies? If God doesn't know the future because it's open, then how is it that there are also prophecies all throughout the bible that would have to mean that the future is known to God?

Just a thought, Yahweh was not identified with nature, Yahweh transcended nature; and Yahweh wasn’t known through nature or natural phenomena. Yahweh was known through history, events and a particular relationship with a man, which Yahweh formed from the dust of the earth.

How does that vague mysticism answer my question?

The story was written in the stars about what is going to happen, and it started with the first Adam. Sorry, misread your question.

How can you be so sure? Have you examined all of the approaches to reconciling these issues and proven them all false? We also know this is wrong from the OT command "Thou shalt not murder". God is still the same as He was in the OT. So you say, repeatedly. But this doesn't make it true.It is always dangerous for fallible, finite humans to make such absolute pronouncements where a perfect, infinite God is involved. Why do you think it must be one or the other? Why not both!If we know and trust God, doesn't it follow that we will also trust what He says (His Word)? No, this is nonsense. Trusting the Bible is not at all the same as worshiping it.We come to know and trust God primarily through the Bible. If the Bible were not trustworthy, how would we come to a correct knowledge of God?The OT has many, many passages which stress trustworthiness and reliability of the Word of God. The last part of Psalm 19 gives six short descriptions praising the written Word of God. Psalm 119 is a much longer composition which praises the written Word of God. And I would suggest that by cutting these difficult passages out of the Bible you are making God too simple and one-dimensional. You seem to know Him, but you are limiting your knowledge and understanding of Him by imposing your own short-sighted limits on Him.Edited by kbertsche, : No reason given.

But you never answered my questions. What for? What motivated you? What was it and IS it that you are trying to teach? (Or are you simply trying to sell your writing?) Please understand---I am not against you for being a writer. I am challenging you to explain why you believe in what you write!Edited by Phat, : clarification

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Well, to start with as I you know I do not believe in an inerrant Bible so I allow for some imagination by the authors. Also, if God is going to do something Himself then He would know that ahead of time. Jesus often foretold the destruction of Jerusalem but that would be on the basis of He could see that would be the retribution by the Romans for the rebellion was brewing.Many of the prophesies that we can see in the Bible are with the benefit of hind sight as well. Frankly, the Jews of that day didn't understand the prophesies the way we do now. It is clear that not even the disciples understood messiahship the way Jesus did. If Jesus had been a military leader defeating their enemies then we would be looking at other biblical verses that would prophesy that.If God knows all that there is to know then, even though the future is unknowable, He can predict the future with a fair degree of accuracy. As I said earlier, it could easily be predicted that Jesus would be crucified as that would happen to anyone, (particularly someone who had already upset those in power), who was going to do what Jesus did when He entered into Jerusalem.