Jesus and his sacrifice is Satan’s test of man’s morality.

So we can agree that human sacrifice is evil...Glad to have you publicly disavow at least this evil. But Jesus was one hundred percent man as well as one hundred percent God.The human part of him was sacrificed. Edited by Aussie, : additional text.

That sure makes the God character look really stupid doesn't it. A God that can't forgive unless She gets paid for it and so creates a fake coin and puts on a pantomime to forgive but only the worst folk out there.

I started out as a believer Faith, indoctrinated from a young age. I never took it literally though and never saw killing children as something good. You see, I think almost all humans are born with some degrees of empathy. It was religion that took yours away.

This is the not so subtle point I'm trying to make. God didn't forgive...God killed.God demands and extracts cruel and brutal punishment, and then turns around and markets it as "Forgiveness."The only reason He killed instead of forgiving is because He wants blood.

However, Isaac was NOT killed, it ends up being a lesson against human sacrifices such as were performed in Abraham's own time by the heathen religions, and Christ could not ultimately die because He was sinless, He chose to die in our place, so there is no killing going on here at all. And of course by dying for us Christ saved millions of us from death through God's judgment for our sins. None of that is good in your eyes? You need to try to rewrite that from the Christian perspective too: "religious differences?" That's a joke. We're talking about the one true God against satanic idolatries that worship other gods in His place thanks to the Fall in Eden. God gave us the Bible so we could know about these things. Worshiping Satan isn't good for them or for anybody. In any case after hundreds of years during which they failed to repent God judged them in righteousness. And you reduce this to a conflict between equal meaningless religions. Blech. Far better to let them go on sacrificing their babies and being subjected to male prostitution for another few hundred years I guess. "Over their parents' religion." What a black joke. Fear not, such tests of faith are reserved for the truly faithful who are important in God's redemptive plan, nobody else is going to be asked. Abraham trusted God, the one true living omnipotent omniscient omnipresent God who is worth trusting. In Hebrews it says He supposed God would raise Isaac from the dead, that was the extent of his faith, misapplied in the case of Isaac but prescient in the case of the sacrifice of Christ which Isaac prefigured. Yet God didn't have him slaughter Isaac. In a day when human sacrifice was performed to God by heathen religions God refused it, made it a denunciation of such practices as well as a test of Abraham's faith and a foreshadowing of the death of the God-Man who alone could pay for our sins. Something done for a specific purpose of judging sin of serious offenders, through God's agents, to teach us about the seriousness of sin, and not at all generally "approved." God doesn't hope, He knows. Abraham is the one who couldn't be sure, that's why it was a test. The first murder was committed by Cain, a human being. Humanity continued in violence until God wiped them all out in the Flood. They ignored Noah's preaching to save themselves for the hundred years it took to build the ark so they can't say they weren't warned that judgment was coming. There was plenty of bloodshed and agony done by human beings.You insist on your own definition of forgiveness but as God told Noah: whoever kills man, by man must his blood be shed. And later: without the shedding of blood there can be no remission of sins. You'd like it otherwise. But blood and death are a fact of life, you can't pay for murder by forgiveness. Even when victims have the grace to forgive a murderer this doesn't substitute for the murderer's execution - except in morally depraved states where the death penalty is considered too barbarian (not that the murderer had any such qualms of course) The fact is that in the nature of things He could not have merely forgiven, as my quotes above suggest. The shedding of blood requires the shedding of blood. And Jesus extended the law against murder to hatred in the heart, which makes us all guilty of the shedding of blood. As well as guilty of all those we fail to warn of judgment and hell. Please review the history of human sin before you judge God for punishing it as He does.

You "never took it literally though." Too bad.I have empathy for those under God's judgment; we are told to be merciful to them, and I was a child of wrath myself before I became a believer. There is a prayer for God to have mercy in judgment as well, but in many places it says He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked but would prefer that they repent. He considers judgment His "strange work," it is not something He enjoys. You accuse him of bloodthirstiness (or at least Aussie does) although he says many times this is not the case. The shedding of blood is necessary. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That is a common belief among Christians but certainly not a universal belief.And it does make the God look stupid and says little for those who subscribe to such barbaric beliefs.

Hi Faith,Lots of causally brutal words infused with and dripping self-righteousness.This is so ugly.You are saying it's okay to kill over religion. Under the right circumstances it's good to kill children, even babies.Death, death, blood, dripping innocent blood...a sweet aroma in your God's nostrils.You refuse to denounce the slaughter of children. Your moral compass is broken. You have nothing to say to us about morality.

God disavowed it in the test of Abraham. And came back to life because He was sinless.

I have plenty to say to you but your ears are closed.

So...this human sacrifice in the case of YOUR religion is okay?Just like the killing of children for YOUR particular religion is okay?You are making lots of scary exceptions for your own religion that you call evil in another religion.Edited by Aussie, : spelling

No, no Faith. We can all hear you loud and clear. But your words are morally bankrupt.

The moral bankruptcy here is that of those who fail to recognize the horrific deeds God was punishing in those incidents you decry. The Amalekites murdered the Israelites at the rear of their column, women and children and exhausted men, for no reason whatever, no war motive to justify it, just murder. God promised that they would be wiped out, though that didn't happen until hundreds of years had passed, and then Saul failed to execute the command, kept the Amalekite king alive, kept the spoil for nimself. The psalm that speaks of dashing babies on stones also says this is payment for the Babylonians having done the same to Israelite babies. You seem to have a problem with justice.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There is something wrong with your moral equilibrator.

So dashing babies brains out on stones was okay, because other people dashed other babies...WTF Faith. I didn't even bother to mention that scripture and how happy the believers would be when they did this, according to Scripture. Being happy while dashing a baby against a stone is what you call Justice?Do you notice I'm not misquoting you or twisting your words. You are saying this all by yourself. Part of you has been broken Faith. You are calling smashing babies against the rocks '"Justice."