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Tram law Member (Idle past 4731 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: |
No, that would be yours.
But then again, you're liberal. You can't help but to collectively judge people.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Coragyps writes: Buzsaw writes: Our president who chose to identify with blacks though he was only half black.... You are a few years older than I, Buz, and as I remember you telling it, you grew up in the United States, not on 55 Cancri d. How can you even force yourself to say something as mindcrackingly dumb as that above? Do you think our president had the choice to proclaim, in 1975 in the US, "Oh, I'm a white boy?" What are you smoking, Buz? What difference does Obama's racial identity make? Is there something offensive about Obama self identifying as black? Seriously, should he call himself a mulatto? More to the point, why would anyone care about Buz's definition of racism? With regards to President Obama, we know from his posts that Buz's hatred for the current US president knows no bounds. Absent that hatred, Buz should have no problem acknowledging that Obama seems to get along just fine with white people. And yes Strom Thurmond (his color-blind rosco not withstanding) was a racist. But Strom isn't the issue here. He's dead.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Oh this is going to be fun.
Really, really you should lay off the personal attacks and grow a thicker hide. Whining will get you no where. Lets go back to the authoritarian=conservative issue.
TL writes:
You do know we can look at all previous posts don't you?
No, I wasn't and didn't, it was you who was making the claim that I was making the claim. TL writes:
Message 133 I decided to mess with this a little. I decided to use the test to see the highest Authoritarian score I could get. I answered either Strongly Disagree or Strongly Agree only and with questions that can be answered in a clearly conservative fashion, I would mark Strongly Agree. Such as the question regarding whether the Christian Religion should be in taught in schools, I marked Strongly Agreed. So, in messing with things I got this score: Economic Left/Right: 6.62Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.15 However, I was doing this to see what it would take to see how high of an Authoritarian score I could get.Clearly you thought if you answered questions in a conservative manner you would get a higher authoritarian score. That is exactly what you are saying here. Would you like to spin this to mean something else?
So you know me personally? You know what I do or do not know? Weird?
You said they were all afraid of brown people. That's calling them racist.TL writes:
You are saying I know only what other liberals say. Now you cannot defend that so you claim I am backing off calling the teapartiers racists. You really are not a very honest debater.
Not to mention how easily you've defined the Tea party as racists when you really haven't read anything about them except what your fellow liberals say about them TL writes:
I welcome responses to my posts. I want people to show me where my thinking is wrong. But I am going to defend my viewpoints very aggressively. Also, I am going to respond with evidence and only get into the gutter with personal attacks when they are first hurled at me. Then I wont hold back at all. Oh yeah you might want to look up the meaning of the word pontificate. Not sure you know what it means.
It is you who are pontificating and trying to define things. TL writes:
Then defend these 'believes". One important thing to remember is that the facts are not going to alter themselves to fit your beliefs.
I am not posting crap. These are things I believe. TL writes:
So you are unwilling to consider anything that does not fit your existing belief set. The major news outlets are all playing the "race card"? What is this "race card" of which you speak? Care to define it?
The fact of the matter is it is you who are generalizing and I will simply not read websites like that who have to play the race card for the lemmings who can't think for themselves. TL writes:
So you think this one Tea Party website speaks for all the tea partiers? You do know there is not one umbrella org don't you. Also, let me clarify I do not think everyone in the movement is racist, but racism permeates the movement and very little has been done to control it or distance the tea party movement form the racist movement in this country. How about giving me those links showing where people inside the movement have stood up to control or fight the racists in there midst. Find any yet? Why don't you actually read their website and see their beliefs? Oh and you have heard of propaganda haven't you. A little history lesson for you. Research the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. What do you think their website is going to say about them?
TL writes:
Laughable. I guess you're just showing you have nothing. You do realize that you just did what you accused me of. Since you probably won't be able to figure that out, maybe someone else can explain it to you.
This is a very common tactic among you liberals. And you guys collectively judge and entire group of people. Such as calling Arizona racists for the anti-illegal immigration laws.
The anti-immigration laws are racist. Maybe you should read them and know what they entail before you opine on them. Does this make all Arizonians racist? Of course not, but it means that there is a strong racist element in elected positions in Arizona. Do you think these laws are aimed at the illegal Irish?
TL writes:
Elitist? What the hell is that crap?(this is the crap I mentioned you post) What on earth would make you call me an elitist? Maybe you need to define what you mean by that?
I am not an intellectual elitist.TL writes:
Again you know not of which you speak. I spoke out very vigorously against the Hillary campaign. The local and state dem parties here got a very strong earful and the campaign got calls, letters and emails from me. And where were people like you when during the primaries Hillary's camp was constantly playing the race card against Obama? What have you done to protest racism? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Listen Tram if you don't have anything to add but personal attacks how about you don't post.
But then again, you're liberal. You can't help but to collectively judge people. Do you not realize how funny this is? I'll give you another hint. You are doing the same exact thing your are accusing me of. It really makes your arguments look petty and sophomoric. If you want to be taken seriously you should probably skip this as a debate tactic. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Tram law Member (Idle past 4731 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: |
You're the one who's bee personally attacking me and being rude to me. If you don't like it don't project and don't post to me.
All of your shit just because I wasn't like anybody else and didn't use the reply button. Ever since then you've been rude to me. So if you don't want me to be rude to you, stop being rude to me and stop posting to me. But I know you won't, because being right is serious business for people like you.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Where do you think the vast majority of Spanish speaking people in Arizona come from?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
I did some research into the link you provide for The Tea Party. Looks like it is a scam.
Evidence mounts TheTeaParty.net is a FAKE You might notice the link I provided is not from a liberal site.
quote: About Conservative Outlooks Isn't it funny how these 10th amendmenters are all for state sovereignty for their pet issues, but I doubt they are very supportive of state marijuana laws or sanctuary laws. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Theodoric writes: How about giving me those links showing where people inside the movement have stood up to control or fight the racists in there midst. Find any yet? How about the expulsion of Mark Williams by the Tea Party Express? http://articles.nydailynews.com/...lliams-mosque-ground-zero
quote: Edited by NoNukes, : Fix quote tag
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Well that is one example. Any more?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Theodoric writes: Well that is one example. Any more? Sorry. I got nothing...
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
I decided to mess with this a little. I decided to use the test to see the highest Authoritarian score I could get. I answered either Strongly Disagree or Strongly Agree only and with questions that can be answered in a clearly conservative fashion, I would mark Strongly Agree. Such as the question regarding whether the Christian Religion should be in taught in schools, I marked Strongly Agreed. So, in messing with things I got this score: Economic Left/Right: 6.62Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.15 However, I was doing this to see what it would take to see how high of an Authoritarian score I could get. That is kinda interesting. I get what you mean even though others seems to misunderstand your intention and point. To test this further, and for those who are saying that Tram law was assuming that Authoritarian = Right, you should see if you can get it to score you a high Authoritarian but also to the far left. What kind of answers would give that score?
So I guess the lesson is this thing is not a true test of finding out one's political leanings and can be easily messed with. And now I wonder if there is anything out there than can actually provide a real accurate score without being messed with. I don't think there is. Its seems alright to me, but I haven't really messed with it. It should be as true as a test as how truthful you, yourself, are being. Of course any test like this isn't going to work if you're lying to it. My problem with these tests is that I don't ever really feel "Strongly" about anything, which only affects the magnitude of the direction your answer puts you towards, so I come out near the center all the time. I guess I could just lower my "Strong" threshold for the purpose of these tests...
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1431 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter
quote: We see the ugly pandering to xenophobia and the self aggrandizement and exaggerate jingoism typical of authoritarians. Remember too, how the authoritarian test subjects tended to end up antagonizing each other and launching nuclear war while the non-authoritarian test subjects tended to end up with working together for world peace. Be careful what you wish for in a president ... Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 609 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
How can you be authoritarian without holding power? Are they talking about people who want an authoritarian government? It could be argued Obama is an authoritarian.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 311 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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See the OP: authoritarianism is a personality trait.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1431 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
How can you be authoritarian without holding power? ... It's more of a psychological profile than a matter of having or holding power. See Message 1 for how "authoritarian is defined and take the test, if you are interested in seeing where you fit. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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