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mike the wiz
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Message 466 of 1442 (778873)
02-25-2016 2:06 PM


ID BEING PATENTLY LOGICAL
"can we yet create a life or an artificial lifeform Mr Scientist?"
"no".
"why not?"
"Because we haven't accumulated enough knowledge/intelligence yet, for the problems."
"are we closer now than we were?"
"Yes, because the more knowledge and the more brains (intelligence) you throw at the problem, the closer we get"
(noticing a pattern yet folks?)
"So are you saying mr scientist, that the key to creating a life or getting closer to that level, is we need more and more intelligence/knowledge?"
"Oh I see what you are doing now - you are trying to get me to admit that knowledge and intelligence is what you need to get a life form! How dare you! what an absolute outrage, I take it all back, in fact we stand a much better chance of getting a lifeform by never doing any thinking ever again, or any experiments! Just sitting here looking at a rock and waiting for it to sprout feelers is much more likely to get us a lifeform, without any intelligence, you wretched, religious ignoramus!"
"And there was me thinking that an eyeball being constructed to see wasn't a religious notion. How silly of me your highness, and grandiose chief of educated thought. Next time my local mechanic fixes my car I'll be sure to tell him what a religious idiot he is for his belief that a car is constructed for the purpose of driving."

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Message 467 of 1442 (778875)
02-25-2016 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 466 by mike the wiz
02-25-2016 2:06 PM


I wondered why this was posted in the humour thread since it seemed to be just a mean-minded exercise in strawmanningl. Then I thought about the subtitle and realised it was an attack on IDer "logic". It's still not nice, but there is at least a touch of humour there.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 468 of 1442 (778877)
02-25-2016 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 466 by mike the wiz
02-25-2016 2:06 PM


There is in fact a subforum where this sort of moronic drivel is on topic. But this is the Humor thread.

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Message 469 of 1442 (778943)
02-27-2016 12:45 AM


The Hunt

  
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Message 470 of 1442 (779066)
02-29-2016 1:35 PM


Marriage

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

  
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Message 471 of 1442 (779088)
02-29-2016 7:10 PM


Gay Trump

If you say the word "gullible" slowly, it sounds like oranges. Go ahead and try it.

  
frako
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Message 472 of 1442 (779147)
03-01-2016 8:14 AM



Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

  
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Message 473 of 1442 (779157)
03-01-2016 10:52 AM


Two Corinthians walk into a bar....

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Message 474 of 1442 (779158)
03-01-2016 11:11 AM
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03-01-2016 10:52 AM


But was Cruz just being Ionic ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 475 of 1442 (779249)
03-02-2016 5:20 AM



Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

  
Dr Adequate
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Message 476 of 1442 (779322)
03-03-2016 10:23 AM



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Message 477 of 1442 (779340)
03-03-2016 2:44 PM
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03-03-2016 10:23 AM


Sadly, that is not a joke. I'm not saying that that tweet is genuine, but rather that it does represent how much too many Christians know.
Back in 2002, I received an email from a Christian asking me about a badly garbled claim about how fast the sun is losing its mass (the claim was that the sun loses half its mass every year). That led me to look for other examples, in the course of which I found that the current vector for claims involving solar-mass loss was Kent Hovind, though he is obviously not the source of the original claim that had been so badly garbled. I keep trying to rewrite my page on that claim, the latest which you can find as: Kent Hovind's Solar Mass Claim.
While searching for examples of Hovind's claim, I came across this flaming example of fundamentalist Christian conspiracy paranoia and science illiteracy at http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1260.cfm:
quote:
TITLE: EXACT ILLUMINIST TIMETABLE FOR PRODUCING ANTICHRIST HAS BEEN REVEALED TO CUTTING EDGE MINISTRIES!
Subtitle: We have been given the exact timetable for producing Antichrist, including the exact date he is planned to arise. We have also been given the precise occult thinking by which this timetable was produced. If God does not act to prevent the Illuminati from carrying out this Plan, Antichrist will likely arise as the Illuminati has scheduled.
. . .
JUPITER NOT A PLANET, BUT AN UNLIT GASEOUS BODY
It seems pretty outrageous to think of Jupiter becoming a star. Some investigation of the makeup of Jupiter on some scientific web sites is in order, especially because of Cooper's bold statement that Jupiter has a makeup "exactly" like that of our Sun. Here are a few comments about Jupiter from the NASA web site located at: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/Jovian.html#king
quote:
"Jupiter contains two-thirds of the planetary mass of the solar system. In composition it resembles a small star. Electrical activity in Jupiter is so strong that it pours billions of watts into Earth's own magnetic field every day. No planet has greater influence on its neighbors. Most of its mass is hydrogen and helium --- it does not burn like the Sun. Models of star formation suggest that Jupiter's mass is only about one-eightieth of the mass needed for ignition, which occurs due to heating from internal gravitational collapse. Jupiter's smaller size leaves its center too cool to ignite."
Here are some comments from (Students for the Exploration and Development of Space) at the University of Arizona.http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/nineplanets/nineplanets/jupiter.html
quote:
"(Jupiter does NOT produce energy by nuclear fusion as in the Sun; it is much too small and hence its interior is too cool to ignite nuclear reactions.) Jupiter is just about as large in diameter as a gas planet can be. If more material were to be added, it would be compressed by gravity such that the overall radius would increase only slightly. A star can be larger only because of its internal (nuclear) heat source. (But Jupiter would have to be at least 80 times more massive to become a star.) "
These comments from NASA, and this astronomy research group, seem to be clear that Jupiter could never ignite on its own. We then posed the following question to the Arizona Space Exploration and Astronomy research group "Could Jupiter be ignited by a huge nuclear device ?" The answer we got back was:
quote:
"Jupiter could not be ignited. The central temperature is the determining factor. A self-gravitating mass of hydrogen 20% the size of the Sun, or smaller, does not have a high enough central temperature to induce nuclear fusion. Temperature equates to average kinetic energy of particles; it takes a very high temperature to get even a small fraction of hydrogen ions to overcome their electrical repulsion and fuse." [Guy Smiley dated 2/2/99]

We were still not sure exactly why Jupiter could not ignite, especially if it were hit with the huge atomic explosion of 1,750 Megatons, as occult sources are saying will occur when the 49.7 pounds of plutonium in the spacecraft Galileo is turned into the planet on December 6. After all, the largest thermonuclear explosion on earth was the Russian test of only 100 megatons in 1961. The answer we received from a Christian scientist, Dr. Kent Hovind, www.drdino.com explained the science to us so we could understand. In the NASA excerpt, quoted above, we learned that "most" of the mass of Jupiter is Hydrogen and Helium, a most explosive mix, if it is mixed with sufficient oxygen in order to burn this mixture. Dr. Hovind says Jupiter does not contain enough oxygen in order to sustain the type of continuous burning that would be needed to produce a star. Now, we understand and now it all makes sense. No matter how large the initial explosion might be, the lack of sufficient quantities of oxygen would snuff out any resulting fire rather quickly.
They couldn't understand the simple truth, but they could understand someone who was as confused and ignorant as they were.
Galileo plunged into Jupiter's crushing atmosphere on Sept. 21, 2003. Of course, there was no explosion since its two reactors, each containing 17 lb of plutonium (or 34 lb combined, not the 49.7 lb claimed), were designed to minimize the effects of any event such as a crash, an explosion, fire, reentry into the atmosphere. More information can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/...eo_(spacecraft)#Electrical_power.
BTW for the sake of lurkers, Kent Hovind is not now nor has he ever been a scientist. His three degrees are all in Religious Education or Christian Education and they are all from unaccredited schools (his Master's and PhD are from the same diploma mill). His only science education was from some classes at a community college in his first two years out of high school and from teaching math and science for about 15 years in private Christian schools (which do not have to require their teachers to be qualified).

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Message 478 of 1442 (779379)
03-03-2016 5:55 PM


Percy To Faith
His comment on her proposed thread made me laugh out loud:
"At one point you say that all tectonic motion today is in one direction. I think if you move the relevant material for that idea from this proposal to a new thread proposal that it would generate a great deal of interest."
Ah, Percy, you're a sly one.

  
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Message 479 of 1442 (779496)
03-04-2016 10:02 PM



  
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Message 480 of 1442 (779505)
03-05-2016 8:45 AM
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03-03-2016 2:44 PM


I partly blame the confusion on the labeling of fusion by mainstream science. I think it was an effort to make science more friendly to the general public. You know what physicists call fusion? They call it burning. So, hydrogen fusion would be "hydrogen burning" and helium fusion would be "helium burning".
Those of us who have been properly educated know the difference between "hydrogen burning" and hydrogen combustion. Unfortunately, most of the public aren't properly educated, so the misunderstanding that "hydrogen burning" is actually hydrogen combustion lingers.
Go ahead and do a google search for "hydrogen burning".

If you say the word "gullible" slowly, it sounds like oranges. Go ahead and try it.

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