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While that is true, the problem I find here is that the statement about looking into the criminal negligence of mom was a statement from the author of the article. While the other statement was a quote of Wells, the law enforcement guy. There is no indication that Well was even considering the issue of mom's criminal culpability.

Yeah, just because the police have been called out to prevent one person from hurting another, that doesn't mean it's a bad idea to leave them alone together with a lethal weapon. If anything, that would help them to settle their differences.

meant to edit but created a dup.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

The police are going to separate the participants. If the situation is dangerous, the police are not going to leave fighters behind together to continue a fist fight, let alone a shoot out. The house is of course full of potentially lethal weapons, most of which are in the kitchen and garage. Are the police going to take the next step of child proofing the house? Get rid of the rat poison?

My lack of detail was intentional, because it wasn't a proposal. I called it a it a starting point for discussion, and you keep ignoring that. Here's what I said originally in Message 4799: And Hyroglyphx didn't find my post unacceptable. He responded in Message 4800 saying there was only one point he disagreed with, and not because I failed to mention due process: Back in Message 4806 you said, "You should be telling us what you mean before." Hyroglyphx understood my reply well enough, and I can't be expected to anticipate that you would read it too and not understand. Will you never call an end to this badgering?I'm guessing not and will await your response. --Percy

Will you ever stop taking a disagreement as badgering? I don't think I continue the discussion any longer than you do. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

I note here that Hydro added some detail that you did not. The principle behind his objection is pretty much the same as the one behind mine.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

And in this corner, the West VA legislature going against the will of its citizens...

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By more than a 2-1 ratio, lawmakers in West Virginia's House of Delegates have approved a bill that would allow gun owners to carry concealed handguns without a permit. The only concealed-carry permits would be for people who are 18-21 years old.

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Delegates approved the bill despite a recent poll that found "84 percent of likely state voters and 87 percent of gun owners support or strongly support the existing law requiring a state permit and gun safety training to carry concealed firearms," according to the Charleston Gazette-Mail.

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Disagreeing is fine. Persistent pestering is badgering. I'm just defending myself against unfounded accusations. Stop making the accusations and I'll stop responding. Besides, your being bothered by my supposed lack of clarity isn't in any way related to the topic. Send PMs.--Percy

Of course he added detail that I didn't. That was the whole idea of outlining a discussion starting point. Your objection is that I didn't mention due process, but I did. From Message 4799: You're just wrong. Stop clogging up the thread. Send me a PM.--Percy

meant to PM. sorry.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

5 dead, 3 injured in a mass rat-poisoning, I'll read that again, it turns out that guns were involved.

The sad thing is that you knew, as did we all, that you would only have to wait 24 hours for that.

A link for those who haven't seen this yet...6 dead in 'calculated' shooting at backyard party in Pa.

Wait, no, it was a guy with a gun accidentally shooting people. My bad. It's just there's been so many isolated incidents of accidental rat-poisoning lately that I got all confused.2 men, 4 children hurt at Ocala shooting range, deputies say