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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, sorry Charley but you did not show anything of the sort. You made assertions which you cannot support.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What you are doing is one of the most dishonest of the tactics of the Christian Cult of Ignorance, pulling isolated proof texts out of context. It's dishonest and only fools fools.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A totally irrelevant and vacuous reply.
We were talking about Genesis 1. Nothing in Ezekiel has anything relevance or connection to Genesis 1. Genesis 1 is a myth written to explain and justify the Jewish sacred week and Sabbath. That was what was under discussion. Attempts to move the goal posts, palm the pea, misdirect attention may work in con games and Carny sideshows but not in an honest discussion.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There is still no flood, no Satan, no first heaven in Genesis 1.
Ezekiel is NOT Genesis 1. Sorry but them's the facts Jack. Have you ever read the Bible?
quote: And on the seventh day God rested. It is a myth designed to explain the sacred week and the Sabbath.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You claimed that Genesis 1 mentioned Satan flooding the world and a first heaven but that is simply false. We will deal with the next piece of your nonsense once we clear up your Genesis 1 nonsense.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Do you remember the topic of thgis thread?
It is that people are mixing the gospels together. You need to stop mixing the gospels together and stop trying to move the goal post, change the subject, palm the pea, con the rubes every time you are shown to not just be wrong but to have absolutely no idea of what is actually written in the Bible. You are not moving on, you are just trying to run away.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There is no "First Heaven" in Genesis 1.
And no Satan. And no flood. Should I quote it again for you?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It has nothing to do with creation or even reasoning; it is simply a matter of honesty and what is actually written.
In Genesis 1 there is no mention of Satan, no mention of a flood, no mention of a first heaven. Those are all thing YOU made up, not the authors, editors, redactors of Genesis 1.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
LOL.
Who cares? We are talking about what the Bible says and it says nothing about the state of anything before heaven. That's as silly a question as asking what I know about before the Big Bang. It currently has no meaning.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, in Genesis 1 there are no 24 people or el or creatures.
Sorry but you are still just making shit up and mixing up the Gospels.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I can read and there is no el or 24 people or 4 creatures in either the term 'without form' or the term 'void' or anywhere in Genesis 1.
But Kipling did write on the subject in the Just So Stories, particularly the one about How the Camel got it's Hump. But even there, no el, no 24 people, no 4 creatures.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually I can fit the sacred week and the Sabbath in the story that begins in Genesis 1 and continues to Genesis 2:1-3. But first you need to understand a very little about how the Bible was created and that requires understanding that things like books of the Bible and verses and punctuation are a recent creation added long after any of the stories were first put into writing.
If you wish to learn I will be happy to try to teach you.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But I have never said that the Sabbath is part of Gen 1:1, I said that the purpose of Genesis 1 was to establish the sacred week and the Sabbath.
It is broken down into days, the day is defined as starting at sundown, it defines a series of six days to be followed by a day of rest; the Jewish sacred week and the Sabbath. Have you ever actually read the Bible?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No, sorry Charley but you still don't seem to understand.
The Sabbath starts at sundown of the sixth day and ends at sundown of the seventh day. Days in Genesis 1 are the same length as days at anytime on Earth and last about 24 hours. It really is that simple. The God character and creation in Genesis 1 are just plot devices to enforce and justify the Jewish sacred week and the Sabbath. Gen 1, like the much older Genesis 2&3 tale are Just so stories meant to explain behaviors; Genesis 1 to explain weekly ritual and Genesis 2&3 to explain why childbirth seems to hurt more for humans than the other animals, why we fear snakes, why people must farm instead of just being hunter gathers, why men rule over women, why unlike all the other animals humans make and wear clothes and why we tend to build societies based on some understanding or right and wrong and justice and why there must be consequences for breaking rules. There are additional themes found in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2&3 but none of them involve long periods of time or floods or Satan or first and second heavens or any of the other stuff you have tried to market. For example, the God character in Genesis 1 is entirely different than the God character found in Genesis 2&3. Go back and reread them and as an exercise see if you can describe how the two gods differ.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 165 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
All the imagery in the 'torah' is a lot to take in. I like to reason, but I can and will use Chapter and Verse to make my points. But can anyone establish truth, besides your truth? What is written is what is written; cherry picking verses and "proof texts" are simply bullshit.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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