What is Christianity?

JWs believe Christ was a created being, an angel, Christians believe He is God Himself incarnate, the Second Person of the Trinity, which is One God in substance or attributes, in three Persons.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It may be different for different branches of JWs but when I tell a JW at my door that they aren't Christian they insist they are.

The Creeds spell out tenets hammered out in debate with various theologians who were then identified as heretics. The Trinity was implicit in scripture but wouldn't have been fully developed if it hadn't been for those who challenged the idea. Early believers knew Christ was God but the Trinity concept wasn't spelled out in detail until Athanasius. Yes, something like that. The main thing is that the early church understood Christ to be God incarnate. The whole concept of the Trinity is there in scripture but had to be drawn out for it to be recognized by everyone. Which is why I'd say being born again is the essential part of the definition, if you're talking about being a Christian beyond what people can recognize. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm not claiming the writers of the scriptures had the Trinity in mind, but what they wrote showed the nature of Father, Son and Holy Spirit that was there for Athanasius to put together as the Trinity, the New Testament descriptions along with all the similar references in the Old Testament to the same Trinitarian facts, and the New Testament says the prophets of old time didn't understand a lot of what they wrote either, which we should expect of revelations given by God. They wrote what God showed them so it was all there for later understanding.I don't know if you're born again or not.

You'd have to believe some basic stuff but I don't have the energy to get into trying to define it right now, but I think there are lots of people who are born again based on some pretty flimsy understanding of doctrine, just nothing outright contradictory. Most of them will eventually grow in their knowledge of doctrine.

A Christian is born again, and although someone else may know in some cases that a person is or is not, it's something the person himself has to know. Also believes all the Creeds.A member of any denomination may or may not be a Christian; church membership has nothing to do with it.

Giving a blizzard of scripture verses with your own interpretation doesn't change the fact that the Trinity is based completely on scripture, which is laid out in many websites on the internet, such as THIS ONE which starts with the following basic outline which is then filled in from scripture: Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You are right, the Sabbath has not been "abolished" and I didn't say it was. I said it was fulfilled in Jesus. We now are no longer under the Law's condemnation. You are, but those who trust in Christ's death for us are not. We are under grace through faith and we obey now from the heart what legalists try and fail to obey outwardly. Jesus IS our Sabbath, we obey it by resting in Him and trusting Him in every way for our justification and sanctification.

There's actually a lot of evidence in the New Testament itself that Jesus regarded Himself as God incarnate. The Messiah as described in the Old Testament was also clearly to be God Himself. But I have a feeling this is no longer the topic of interest here.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The "hills" are alive only in the "Sound of Music" as far as I know, certainly not in scripture, but Jesus Christ is certainly alive in scripture. Believers in Christ know He is alive because we have a relationship with Him and scripture clearly says He is alive. What do you think "resurrection" means, or "He is risen?" He is alive forevermore. Do you just discount everything scripture says about how He gives believers eternal life? Everlasting life? How could He give anybody eternal life if He didn't have it Himself? Here's a page on the subject from well-known preacher John Piper's website Desiring God Ministries:

Scripture makes it clear that Jesus has a glorified body since rising from the dead, that He can walk through walls, and that He can eat, though it doesn't say anything about whether he HAS to eat or do any other physical functions. He is certainly alive: He was seen by all the disciples, He talked to them over a period of forty days, in a recognizably human body. In that resurrection body He persuaded Thomas that He was alive from the dead (and also that He was God Himself, since he called Him "My Lord and my God"). He also walked with two disciples to Emmaus in a recognizable human body even though they didn't recognize Him personally right away, and had a long discussion with them before having a meal with them.How on earth you can claim to be a Christian is mindboggling. You call what Christians have always believed a lie, you call a well-known and well-respected preacher a shillster.Besides denying that the disciples saw and spoke with Him after the resurrection I suppose you also deny that Paul actually spoke with the risen living Christ on the road to Damascus after He was ascended to heaven?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Oh I see. Somehow the fact that He was dead but then got up and walked around eating and talking with people for forty days isn't proof He's still alive after ascending to heaven? You are quite the logician. Well, Paul's story didn't evolve, that's your own weird way of misconstruing his various tellings of the story, as if anybody ever recounts an experience in exactly the same terms every time. Sigh. So now you want proof that He's alive after the ascension, and certainly you have some fanciful way of dismissing the scriptural statement that He is now sitting at the right hand of the Father making intercession for His followers. Nothing would convince you would it? Not the fact that Christians get answers to prayer, nothing. So I'll write what I can anyway to try to keep others from believing your unbelievably destructive stuff.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Sure, give us the "versions."Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

His being alive after the resurrection but before the ascension is sufficient to make the case that He's also alive after the ascension.However, if you want something from after the ascension, it's in Revelation: What does it mean? Well, I believe I'll get to see Him in the flesh eventually, in a human body, a real person, able to talk to me.

Yes I will be alive at that time. I will be me, in a lovely new body that can't get sick or weak. Alive is alive jar, I don't know why you are having such a problem with the concept.