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Faith 
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Message 410 of 451 (780680)
03-18-2016 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by jar
03-18-2016 5:11 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
What does "Yes I will be alive at that time. I will be me, in a lovely new body that can't get sick or weak." mean in relation to what we know today as being alive?
What we know today as "alive" is really more dead than alive because of the Fall which brought every kind of disease, deformity and death into the world. This is indicated when scripture says unbelievers are "dead in their sins." It is also implied in the message that the gospel "quickens" or brings to life that which was dead. It is implied in Jesus' saying He gives us eternal life. Being born again means to be born into a new life, a true new life. The resurrection from the dead in a certain sense occurs already, or at least begins, when a person is born again. So the new body believers can expect to have (I realize I jumped the gun on this since we won't have it until the Final Judgment when all are resurrected. Until then, as I understand it, we will have the life of spirits.) The TRUE life, the life God originally created, is disease-free and can't die.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 412 of 451 (780684)
03-18-2016 7:05 PM
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03-18-2016 7:02 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
It may tell YOU nothing, but that's because you work so hard to eliminate the truth. For believers it's rich with information.

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Message 416 of 451 (780692)
03-19-2016 9:29 AM
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03-19-2016 8:10 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
I believe that God exists.
I do not believe God is alive.
Your insistence that Jesus is not alive because YOU have a problem understanding the concept, and God, and your incessant contradiction of the Bible on any concept that you personally have a problem with, and your general attitude in post after post that what the historical Church thinks is wrong because YOU have a problem with what the Church thinks, is a level of arrogance that I can't fathom.
I quote scripture and you say it means nothing. Obviously it means nothing to YOU but who are you to judge the Bible and judge two thousand years of Christian understanding? Who cares what YOU understand about it anyway? In this post you say you are clueless almost in a humble way but such an attitude is so rare I'm sure you don't mean it: if you are clueless that implies a fault with the concept that God is alive, not with you. If you said you don't get it, with some sense that the fault is on you, that would be fine, but you don't, what YOU don't understand trumps what the Bible says and the whole history of Christian belief. The way YOU read the Bible is the right way, no matter how many respected commentators disagree with you. They are "shills" or "marketing" something. Unbelievable arrogance. Christian doctrine is a historical consensus, not a one-man show.
The Bible calls God the "living God" in thirty different places. Here's the first:
Deu 5:26 For who is there of all flesh, that hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?
If you don't get it that's YOUR fault, not the Bible's.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 422 of 451 (780699)
03-19-2016 11:16 AM
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03-19-2016 9:40 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
An assertion by folk who wrote the various Bible stories is not really very strong evidence of anything Faith, particularly when it is a fact that so much that is said to be fact in the Bible stories is simply false and the product of ignorance.
Not according to hundreds of millions of believers and hundreds of thousands of Bible exegetes who know their business far better than you could ever pretend to. What unbelievable arrogance. Interesting that you don't quote anybody else for any of your interpretations of the Bible either, you just lay out your own self-righteous understanding.
The topic though is to try to define what people think is Christianity. You have one version and this is the place where you can try to present what YOU think is Christianity.
It's the Bible believed completely to be the inspired word of God as He moved its authors down the centuries, and followed as God's guide to living, and taught as such by thousands upon thousands of highly educated and spiritually led men.
You will notice that I have never denied or claimed that your beliefs are not a version of Christianity.
Am I supposed to be grateful or what? I certainly deny that YOUR beliefs are even remotely Christian.

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