The Story in the Rocks - Southwestern U.S.

Thanks, that make perfect sense.

This whole "buckled section after the overlying layers were deposited thing" is something you made up.You are the only one who claims the contact surface of the Grand Canyon unconformity is flat. It may look that way if you are viewing it from miles away, but up close it is quite irregular.Edge has shown you examples of this irregular surface and it has been pointed out to you numerous times in the past. The flatness is an illusion cased by viewing distance.And just how many are you calling a "majority of cases?" How many unconformities have you actually visited and analyzed?

Right, despite being shown countless pieces of evidence that prove you wrong, and never having conducted a single second of scientific research, and having an argument that violates the laws of physics, that is based on a biblical myth, you still know you are right.You have said in past discussions that no matter how much evidence there is against you the bible is still correct. Sounds exactly like religion and/or cognitive dissonance to me.

Yep, you posted a bunch of photos, but subsequent posts blew your interpretation out of the water.After all this time your argument has not gained a single convert, Geology must be a powerful argument.

So, once again you crap all over a perfectly good discussion.You know what they say......"Don't let the......."

I thought you left..... There is only one person being rude and insulting here and it is not edge or Jar. You are behaving like a total jerk, which typical when you realize that your argument won't hold water.Our model describes Geology on this planet perfectly with nothing left out. Your model does not work, period.Now, once again. this is a SCIENCE thread not a biblical flood thread.Please go away like you said you would. I started this thread to discuss geological formation that I have seen with GEOLOGISTS.

Many places where I see these types of deposits they seem to be relatively deep (tens of meters). It must have been overwhelming for any animals living there to be buried in sudden ashfalls.The John Day Fossil Beds in Oregon have some very colorful deposits that yield thousands of fossil mammals that were buried about 40 million years ago.

Yeah, I know. My excuse is I was distracted, trying to remember where my John Day shots are and also, because I am working on a set of shots for a discussion of Hurricane Fault.Plus, I am in the planning stages of a road trip through the SW and then continuing on to Tennessee to hook up with my best travel pal to look for an undescribed very large dragonfly that we have only seen twice. This trip will bee mid-May to mid-June.Then we have another road trip to a DSA meeting in Utah in July.Anyway, I think we have some more ashfall layers mixed into the exposed strata layers along the Hurricane Fault.Besides, the ashfall deposits may not have been a single continuous event. There is layering within the deposits.

This is Quil Creek Reservoir, east of the town of Hurricane, Utah. We are looking west Note the exposed strata to the left and the three buttes in the distance. Zoom in for better detail. Closer to the buttes we can see that they are uplifted on the side facing us and the flat surface on the top now tilts back away from us. There is a long line of uplifted blocks following the south side of the fault visible here. The outcroppings on the right form an uplifted ridge on the north side of the fault. I do not know what kinds of forces are buckling the surface along the fault. Are the two sides pushing against each other, or sliding along each other, or is something more complicated going on here?I am assuming that this is the same Hurricane fault that crosses the Grand Canyon.I have more shots from different positions including the back sides of the buttes.I think it is interesting that it looks like the fault runs right through the middle of the reservoir and that houses and the town of Hurricane are right on top of the fault and around the buttes.Edited by Tanypteryx, : grammerEdited by Admin, : Narrow image width.

I am not sure what you mean, but in edge's shot you can see a horizontal band and in many other deposits, I have seen clear layering bands. I do not know what the layering represents as far as the deposition event(s). Sorry if I implied I did.

No. Those are sandstone or limestone that were hauled from somewhere else. I think the light colored material that shows in the outcropping on the right is ash.ABE: the light colored material in the center of the top photo looks like an ash deposit, also.Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.

Coalmine Canyon east of Tuba City has some layers like that, I think

Wow, good information. The Bisti Badlands look like a spot I would like to visit. Straight south of Farmington.I found some material at Wikipedia about these deposits.This area was on the west shore of the Western Interior Seaway 70 million years. If I understand this correctly the an ancient river delta left deposit 430 m thick after the seaway dried up.It seems to me that the alternating nature of these layers between obviously forming in the seaway and above sea level, over long periods of time, including the burning of some of the lignite coal layers is support for the explanation that geological science gives us and is direct evidence against a recent global flood.I would expect that since some of these deposits form on a river delta we should see some of the type of layering described by Walther's Law.

Can an unconformity be easily identified as anywhere where both level and tilted strata are exposed?These first two shots were taken along Hwy 26 in Wyoming, following the Wind River, west of Shoshone. I wasn't sure whether it is better to post this here or in the Road Trip - Dragonflies - Photography - Geology thread..... N43.5787481 W109.7755929One thing I noticed on this road trip was that there are huge (covering a large area), often thick layers of volcanic ash that is being exposed by erosion throughout the western U.S. These deposits are sandwiched between other sedimentary layers, so they should make radiometric dating relatively easy at many locations.I had no idea that these igneous deposits were so common. The implications are that they must be from truly massive eruptions that blanketed huge swaths of territory with deposits many meters deep. Eruptions on this scale are unprecedented in human history. Further west along Hwy 26 is another example that I assume shows several unconformities. N43.7236648 W110.0423707 One thing that is clear (to me) in these images is that the strata were not deposited in nice, level, flat, evenly thick layers. The deposition surfaces were often tilted and uplifted and eroded between deposition events or periods and this process is continuing today.Edited by Tanypteryx, : Fixed clumsy wording