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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
What’s in a name? ‘Hillary’ by any other name would still be controversial ...some Americans, mostly women, don’t think the former secretary of state, U.S. senator from New York and first lady should be called by just her first name. I think they need to recognize that, after 20 years of prominent exposure, Hillary has reached the point of only needing a single name. Not a thing of disrespect or respect, just a reality. Now coy boy, who's your pick for Republican presidential candidate in 2016? MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Had to track down one of my old signatures, which included:
"Nixon was a professional politician, and I despised everything he stood for, but if he were running for president this year against the evil Bush-Cheney gang, I would happily vote for him." - Hunter S. Thompson MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Way back in the old "Bloom County" cartoon, there was an extended series having Trump's brain in Bill the Cat's body.
Trump's body was crushed when his yachts anchor was accidentally dropped on the Donald, and to save him his brain was transplanted into Bill's body. A couple of memorable lines were referring to wife Ivana as "the Trump frump" and referring to the litter box as "the Trump dump". MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Doing the most epic stand-up comedy tour ever.
MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose |
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Republicans - 113 of 126 districts reported:
MARCO RUBIO 36.57% 36.24%TED CRUZ 28.74% 29.04% DONALD J. TRUMP 21.37% 21.41% Number Attending Caucuses-Republican : 100777 114230 Democrats - 64 of 121 districts reported: BERNIE SANDERS 60.70% 61.08%HILLARY CLINTON 38.55% 38.11% Number Attending Caucuses-Democratic-Farmer-Labor : 86796 186646 I'm guessing that the more rural districts are the ones yet to come in (or maybe it's the large urban districts, that take more counting time???). My little caucus was, of 15 votes, Bernie 13 (86.7%), Hillary 2 (13.3%). Moose Will try to update this message tomorrow (final numbers in red). Edited by Minnemooseus, : Update to final results in red.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose |
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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I'm surprised nobody has yet posted this. I first encountered it via here.
quote: 21:53 long, and IMO worth it. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Fixed missing letter in code.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Some fairly rational people, some loons, and then there's Jesse Ventura. While one might argue against his political legacy, I do think he's a reasonably rational thinker.
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quote: I don't have the larger context of that quotation, but I interpret it as "The Republican party is a disaster area, and candidate Trump will be doing a valuable service by totally crashing the party". I don't think Jesse is a Trump supporter (I presume he means Trump winning the nomination, not the presidency). Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Left "Ventura" out of the subtitle.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Quoting the Donald:
"Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it." Not that I've investigated it personally, but this may be substantially true. There are a lot of unemployed that are not part of the official unemployed count. Moose Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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I voted Bernie in the Minnesota caucus, and he did carry the state (and Donald came in 3rd in the Republican caucus) . I was and am, however, concerned about his age.
I think that Bernie did a valuable service by his POTUS run, bringing progressive issues forward, but now it's time to go back to the Senate where he's probably more valuable. Elizabeth Warren's name is bouncing around, as either vice-president or a cabinet member. I feel that she too is more valuable in the Senate. I love the Bern, but my impression is that the Bernie true believers, who seem inclined to go third party rather than Hillary, think that Bernie has magical powers to get his ideals implemented. And I much agree that "moderate Republican" Hillary is better than loose cannon Donald (who might just be more liberal than Hillary). And Donald might be better that most or all of the other Republican offerings. But remember that I think Donald was running a comedy tour, not a political campaign. And I remember that some of the right here considered Al Franken to be a clown. But I don't want Donald on my TV in a "reality" show, much less want him on TV as President. I hope that Minnesota goes at least 75% Hillary. OSLT. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose |
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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I appreciate your sentiments (if not your sediments - I'm more of an igneous guy), but...
Until we have some sort of run-off system, I feel the need to vote for the lesser of two evils. And that means the Democratic candidate. Texas is pretty sure (understatement?) to go Trump. Minnesota is pretty sure (not as confident) to go Hillary. But I'm not about to chance doing a "protest vote". If nothing else, we need to keep SCOTUS appointments out of the hands of a Republican and/or comedy routine. But as long as House and/or Senate control remains Republican, even if the progressive ideal was elected President, it would seem to make little difference. OSLT. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Tweak.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
And yet I am not convinced that a #SHilIary nomination will be good for overturning citizens united -- she's more likely to go wall street and corporatist warmonger. It don't wish to divert this topic into a big CU discussion, but I must add 1 comment. Quite a while back I heard a rational opinion from some moderate to liberal source. The opinions essence was that the SCOTUS Citizens United decision was correct, albeit undesirable. Thus the need for a constitutional amendment. I am not going to debate this detail further. Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Or maybe the Republicans can elect the Donald so that they can impeach him and make the VP President.
But who's going to be the Vice President candidate? They might be even worse than Donald. Essentially, I think the Donald has been making an effort to campaign against himself. That had been failing, but maybe now things are turning around (Failure is success, and success is failure - Or is that the other way around). MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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