Chance as a sole-product of the Universe

It is a belief in reality as you understand it to be...backed by evidence. In general, and in science specifically, evidence is a useful and logical belief. Whats the old saying? Seeing Is Believing....I can only guess why you think the way that you do. Several possible reasons come to mind.

Evidence of human behavior.

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Belief in secular evidence concerning the Bible as a human document and no proof that God exists or interacts with humanity. Having a history of challenging religious people who claim to have special imputation but who are evidently no wiser than secular people and in many cases worse.

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You just like to be a contrarian

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Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

Bring your argument here or don't bother posting.

Why yes, in the same way that you having two legs is expected evidence if you are a chicken.
But then I'd look at all the ways in which the universe appears to not be designed, and all the ways in which you appear to not be a chicken.

So why do you believe in God when you don't see Him?The bizarre claim that God hides so that we have to have faith in Him goes contrary to the old saying.

Does that answer your question? If Jesus thinks it is blessed to believe without seeing, who am I to argue with Him? (Unless you throw the silly argument at me that the redactor is telling us what Jesus said!)

The story of Thomas does not support your point. Jesus showed Thomas the evidence. If those who believe without evidence are also blessed, that is not a case of "seeing is believing". You'll have to look for another "old saying" to support blind belief. Why is that a silly argument? What reason do you have to think that Jesus' words were written down with perfect accuracy?

What I'm saying is that it is blessed to believe without seeing the evidence. If God wanted us to see evidence, he would have. The Bible never suggests that without evidence it is impossible to please God. It rather suggests that without Faith it is impossible to please God. Because Jesus wanted us to get the point. I agree that it can be argued either way....but I'm of the inclination that God wants us to have accurate information as to what He expects from us...otherwise He has no reason to expect humanity to make an informed choice. By the way, I'm struggling to tie this all in with chance. I suppose my argument is that there is no chance that God exists nor is there a chance that God exists. God exists, period. The argument of necessary certainty. God and Other Necessary BeingsOntological Arguments

He did. Jesus showed Thomas. What Jesus said flat out - not "suggested" - was that the way to please God is to feed the hungry, etc. Apparently that is what He meant by having faith. Word salad has a lot of fiber in it; it goes right through you.

I respect mainstream science to a point....because if science in general--as we know it today---is wrong, the argument concludes that we have a Creator who tricks our intelligence.Critics may assert that we trick ourselves through faulty assumptions in our human logic and wisdom. Probability is only useful if it can be absolutely determined as a finite fixed number. Random probability is the same as chance in that it simply assumes that "there is a good chance"....and chance in and of itself cannot create anything. By the same token, one side may say that there is no need for aq designer while the other side would go so far as to boldly assert that a designer must be a 100% certainty for without Him, life itself would not exist. We always joke that its "turtles all the way down"...but seriously look at the origin of human wisdom and logic.
Thats right....humans.Intelligent Design by definition points to certain intelligence versus random probability. Does this make any sense or am I again serving up word salad? I struggle to put into words what I feel and believe.Todays Quote: The temptations of God were always more dangerous for mankind than those of Satan. As long as chaos dominates the world, God is an anachronism; and every compromise with one’s own conscience is perfidy. When the accursed inner voice speaks to you, hold your hands over your ears
~― Arthur Koestler, Darkness at NoonEdited by Phat, : added quote

Thats my point. There are no odds.
To wit: Again, my point is that there was no cosmic lottery.Are you asserting that humans are no more special than cockroaches or pond scum? Did God so love the pond that He sent His only begotten scum?
Did God send a cockroach born of a virgin to fight the evil Black Flag Empire?

Can you attribute any degree of probability that God exists?

0 evidence = 0 probability.
Now if you present evidence, that probability might change.

Yes, I am asserting that humans are no more special than cockroaches and certainly nowhere near as successful as a species.Humans wrote the story about God sending his son and so the story is human centric.Further it seems that you totally missed the import of the story about the Lithograph. Just like the Bible Stories, the picture was created to market to humans and so was made human centric.

what sort of evidence would people accept?In my opinion, God gave no evidence on purpose.People by nature don't want God to exist. Am I wrong in my assumption? What do you think personally?

Why shouldnt humans be special? We are, after all, the only species to have built all this stuff. No other species comes close...unless you think beaver dams are as amazing as skyscrapers and supercomputers. Did they make the story up or did they write about an event that happened? Why do you believe in the Nicene Creed if the whole idea is simply a story spun by a campfire on a cold night? If the story has value, would it not testify to human imagination versus an actual Creator of all seen and unseen?And Theodoric...why is evidence held in higher regard than faith?