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Author Topic:   Is A Materialist View Less Parsimonious?
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Message 8 of 42 (789034)
08-09-2016 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Phat
08-09-2016 4:32 PM


Re: Mind Over Matter
But no one except Creationists think, say or believe such nonsense.

Have you ever seen the formula E=mc2?

If it was written as m=E/c2 what would it mean?

Do you understand equivalency?


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Message 9 of 42 (789036)
08-09-2016 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mike the wiz
08-09-2016 7:55 AM


Mike just makes shit up
MtW writes:

However the materialistic creation story of atheism, obviously doesn't need to assume a supernatural realm which might make it more parsimonious in that regard which I would concede. However, how many more assumptions/entities/variables, must be assumed in order to accept materialism?

First Mike, there is no such thing as the materialist creation story of atheism.

Second, there are almost no assumptions in the conventional theories of Old Earth or Evolution.

No really need to stop posting supposed refutations of claims no one makes; it just makes you look silly.


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Message 13 of 42 (789043)
08-09-2016 6:40 PM
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08-09-2016 6:21 PM


Re: Mind Over Matter
No. What it means is that energy and matter are interchangeable and so matter can be created from energy or energy from matter.

Further, additional evidence seems to indicate that both are just inherent parts of space/time.


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Message 20 of 42 (789066)
08-10-2016 9:10 AM
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08-10-2016 7:32 AM


Re: Mind Over Matter
I say the wag was being silly.

I have no idea what "in the beginning" even means.


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Message 41 of 42 (789235)
08-11-2016 9:26 PM
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08-11-2016 9:07 PM


Re: Mind Over Matter
Phat writes:

Are you surmising that matter has always existed?(and/or energy)

I have no idea, but also don't see how that is relevant to trying to figure out what "In the beginning" even means?

Does it mean "In the beginning of this universe?" If so then the evidence shows that energy did exist at the beginning of this universe and that matter is one of the consequences of that fact.

If "In the beginning" means what was there before that energy then the answer is "I don't yet know."

Saying "God was before the energy" means nothing, explains nothing and answers no questions.


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