Describing what the Biblical Flood would be like.

Yes Really.

Meteorologist Alfred Wegener wrote, The Origin of Continents and Oceans in 1915. This was the beginning of the debate of plate tectonic's.

There was no one before that who made any notes about what the movement of the plates was.

So there can only be an assumption that they have always been the same.

If you disagree please explain your reasoning.

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Moses did not translate the Hebrew into English and I doubt if he actually knew what the layout of the early earth was. He did know what it was like in his days but the single land mass had been divided in the days of Peleg which was at least 100 years after the flood.

The Hebrew word translated mountains is also translated hills.

The Grand Canyon did not exist until at least 100 years after the flood, as the earth was not divided yet.

How much the velocity could have been would be determined by the elevation and size of the land which is unknown. We only know what it looks like now anything else is an assumption on our part.

I don't understand this statement.

I am the one trying to explain that the rising water would do little damage. In fact long before Peleg was born there would have been no trace of the flood. But after the earth was divided in the days of Peleg there would have been no possible way of seeing any evidence of the flood. You could probably find places that there had been a flood in the past in many places but you would not be able to see a flood layer all over the earth.

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It did not seem like detail to me. It sounded more like an assertion.

You said the erosion would take place because of the water rushing to where there was no water. That is not much detail when you don't even know the shape of the land mass or the elevation of the land mass.

But it does. Genesis chapter 8 tells us that not long after it stopped raining that a dove was sent out from the ark and came back with an olive leaf.

It don't sound like much damage was done to the earth.
It wasn't long before Noah was farming.

So where is all the damage you were alluding too?

Sorry NoNukes I just believe the Bible.

All I know is there was a dry land mass that was protruding out of the water that was gathered in one place.

How big it was or how high above sea level it was protruding there is no way of knowing.

Assumption
I would assume that all the continental plates were there is some form. How much of any of them that was protruding out of the water at the time of the flood is unknown.

So what are you ranting about that I have made up?

God Bless,

As to their existence there is no question.

But to believe they have always moved at the same rate of speed is an assumption. In fact there are plates moving at different speeds. Some at 1" per year and other at 3' to 4".

Your 175 million years ago is based on your assumption that the plates have maintained the same rate of speed .

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Key word: REASONABLE ASSUMPTION

Key word: REASONABLE ASSUMPTION

So both were based on an assumption.

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Refresh my memory of where I said that.

I did say I would disagree with your dating of the time that the land mass was in one place. Which would be due to the assumption that the plates have always moved at the same pace.

So you misread my statement and jumped to conclusions.

I do not argue the age of the universe or earth as I believe it is older than you do. So forget all your YEC arguments.

But the reason the plates are moving at the speed they are today is because the earth was divided in the days of Peleg in a nano second. They just haven't come to a complete stop yet.

An assumption is a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.

Just because you accept certain assumptions does not make them true.

My assumptions have just as much evidence as your assumptions.

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An assumption is an assumption which is accepted as truth by those whose world view it fits.

Sure I have reason to make my assumption. The earth was divided in the days of Peleg which was a duration of 239 years. But I believe it took place in a nano second or less. They just have not come to a complete stop yet, which is the reason different plates are moving at different rates.

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Evidence creates facts not assumptions.

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Can you tell me where I can find that definition.

I can find several for the definition I gave.

That assumption is false.
The sun does not rise in the east.

The sun appears in the east due to the revolution of the earth on it's axis, in relation to the sun.

Stonehenge was built on the evidence that was observed not an assumption.

Science agrees with the Bible that the land mass was in in one area surrounded by water.

Science and the Bible agree that the land mass was separated into the places they are today.

So the only problem is how quickly the land mass was divided.

How do we know when Pangea existed?

IF the plates have always moved at the same speed Pangea existed about 250 million years ago and began to break up about 150 million years ago.

The oldest data for the speed of the movement of the plates dates back to 1974.

Some plates are moving at higher rates than others.

Now just because the plates are moving at certain rates today does not mean they have always moved at those rates.

The steady movement for 150 million years is an assumption.

The plates could have been moved to their present location in a nano second and just have not come to a complete stop yet. This is an assumption.

Someone who believes the Bible is a myth telling me I am wrong about what the Bible says is hilarious.

God Bless,

But it does not appear at the same time each morning.

Who said anything about a force on earth.

The force that holds the universe together would have no problem moving them and it would not be magic. I think you would probably call that force dark energy or dark matter.

God Bless,

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Genesis
11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

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The Hebrew word פוץ is translated scattered and scatter in these verses, and means, scatter or disperse.

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Genesis 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

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The Hebrew word פלג is used in this verse and translated divided. The definition is to divide or split.

Well I read Genesis in August 1949 and believed the same then as I do now. I believed God and accepted His free full pardon and turned my life over to Him.

I led a prayer meeting 2 months later and talked about God dividing the earth in the days of Peleg. So later in 1955 when I read about Pangea that confirmed by belief that land mass was in one place and God divided it in the days of Peleg.

With the two different Hebrew words used in Genesis 10:25 and then in Genesis 11:8, 9 there is no way the text in Genesis 10:25 can be translated as the nations or people being dispersed over the land mass.

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Genesis 11:8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

11:9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

The Hebrew word פוץ is translated scattered and scatter in these verses, and means, scatter or disperse.

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Genesis 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

The Hebrew word פלג is used in this verse and translated divided. The definition is to divide or split.

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But the two Hebrew words do not mean the same thing. Did you even read my post?

Edited by ICANT, : No reason given.

What assumptions are you referring too?

The sun don't rise.

The earth rotates on it's axis taking 23 hours 56 minutes, and 4 seconds to make a complete rotation.

That is the reason the sun appears at different times.

That is the reason the appearance of the sun for any place on earth can be figured out for any date in the future.

No assumptions are required.

God Bless,

Your Hebrew needs a lot of work.

The Hebrew word פרד means separate. Genesis 10:32
The Hebrew word פלג means divided or split. Genesis 10:25

The people were separated not divided or split.

Well the Bible don't mention continental drift. It just states that in the days (during his lifetime) of Peleg the earth was divided.

That would have been at least 100 years after the flood.

God Bless,