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jar
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Message 6 of 103 (790400)
08-30-2016 8:05 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
08-30-2016 8:02 AM


You are free to have your opinion
You are free to have your opinion but not to break the secular laws. Sorry but secular laws trump what you might think are God's Laws.

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jar
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Message 15 of 103 (790413)
08-30-2016 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Faith
08-30-2016 8:40 AM


Re: You are free to have your opinion
Faith writes:
The harm is done by sending someone like Kim Davis to prision for refusing to sign marriage licenses; harm is done to the Christian business owners whose store was vandalized and they forced to leave it.
Kim Davis broke the law. It is irrelevant whether her conscious made her break the law.
Vandalism is always wrong.
Kim Davis and the vandals were both criminals.

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Message 22 of 103 (790428)
08-30-2016 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by 1.61803
08-30-2016 10:03 AM


what about bring your child to work day?
Can gays bring their son or daughter to work?

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jar
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Message 25 of 103 (790431)
08-30-2016 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Faith
08-30-2016 10:19 AM


false and misleading comparisons as well as misrepresentation
Faith writes:
Ah yes, now it's ANY opinion, right? Just any old opinion has a right if my opinion has a right. If someone thinks people should marry dogs that should be treated as an opinion to be respected. An opinion that has rights, that should be protected by law so that it can be acted upon. Of course. The opinion that men who are attracted to boys should be allowed to act on it is gaining favor in some quarters. Obviously since it's somebody's opinion it should be respected.
No one said all opinions should be respected. Some opinions deserve no more than ridicule.
Faith writes:
So now we have to argue about the grounds for treatin an opinion as worthy of protection, as having rights.
Exactly. We need to discuss the grounds for treating an opinion as worthy of protection.
For example let's look at YOUR post.
Faith writes:
If someone thinks people should marry dogs that should be treated as an opinion to be respected.
Unless someone can come up this a valid reason people should not marry dogs, certainly it should be respected.
Faith writes:
The opinion that men who are attracted to boys should be allowed to act on it is gaining favor in some quarters.
It certainly should and has been discussed and society decided there was a vested interest in not allowing minors to make decisions related to sexuality and to prohibit coercion by adults.
See Faith, that is the way it works.

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Message 31 of 103 (790440)
08-30-2016 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Faith
08-30-2016 11:00 AM


Some really basics.
Faith writes:
Ah yes, an illegal law of the land, imposed on the nation without any action of the legislature, just autocratic judicial tyranny as usual.
Sorry Faith but it cannot have been an illegal law and it was not imposed by tyranny. Have you ever read the US Constitution Faith. The courts have no armies, no police, no enforcement agencies. They cannot ever be tyrants.

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Message 48 of 103 (790490)
08-30-2016 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Dr Adequate
08-30-2016 8:10 PM


And the New York Supreme Court just carried things a step further and redefined parenthood as well.
quote:
More broadly, the court noted that Alison D.’s foundational premise of heterosexual parenting and nonrecognition of same-sex couples is unsustainable, particularly in light of New York’s law allowing gay marriage, which was passed in 2011, and the United States Supreme Court’s landmark ruling last year granting same-sex couples the right to marry.
Thank God!

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Message 50 of 103 (790492)
08-30-2016 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Faith
08-30-2016 8:20 PM


Faith writes:
When they make an extreme minority "a little more free" against the will of the majority they are indeed usurping power over the people.
Two issues with what you post Faith.
First, that is not usurping but rather the duty of the SCOTUS and second, the majority has consistently supported gay marriage.

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Message 53 of 103 (790496)
08-30-2016 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Faith
08-30-2016 8:31 PM


We know that is your claim
Faith writes:
The majority of the people have NOT supported gay marriage at all. The court has been bullying them.
We know you like to make that claim and very likely even believe it is true but just like Young Earth or the Biblical floods or Special Creation it is simply your fantasy.
quote:
Well, it’s about time.
That, says Rev. Richard Gantenbein, is how the majority of his 300-member congregation has responded since Sunday morning, Aug. 14. That’s when Gantenbein — head pastor at St. Andrew Presbyterian Church since 1982 — took the pulpit to affirm, publically, his personal support for marriage equality. He took the moment to proclaim St. Andrew as a safe haven for LGBTQ Christians, and for those believers struggling as their family members come out as gay or transgender.
It’s what I’ve believed for a while now, after years of careful study of the scripture and a lot of serious reflection, says Gantenbein. I’ve just been waiting for the right opportunity to say it clearly and openly.
Gantenbein’s view on same-sex marriage is now shared by a majority of American Presbyterian congregations, which voted in March of 2015 to amend the church constitution to define marriage as a covenant between two people. The decision freed Presbyterian ministers to conduct same-sex weddings, previously prohibited, regardless of the U.S. Supreme Court’s June 2015 ruling legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states. In spite of the church-wide vote, the issue continues to generate vigorous debate among many Presbyterians, including opponents suggesting the denomination has caved in to cultural pressures, abandoning centuries of church tradition.
from this source
The Presbyterian Church USA votes recognize Same Sex marriages
The Episcopal and Lutheran churches now recognize same sex marriages and even openly gay pastors, priests, deacons and bishops.
Before the SCOTUS issued their ruling 38 US States had legalized same sex marriages and nationwide polls in the US showed that over 60% of the population supported the concept of same-sex marriages.

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jar
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Message 92 of 103 (807832)
05-05-2017 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Faith
05-05-2017 8:09 PM


Re: Reap what you sow
Gay Pastors, Women Pastors, Gay Bishops, Women Bishops; all is right in the world.

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