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Author Topic:   Case against Kim Davis dismissed
Hyroglyphx
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Message 65 of 103 (790532)
08-31-2016 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Faith
08-30-2016 8:23 AM


Sounds good but it's really just a form of tyranny that denies freedom of belief to those you disagree with, because there is no way to have freedom of opinion if you are forbidden to act on it.
When you hold public office, you are duty bound to to act impartially. No one is saying she isn't free to hold her beliefs or even the right to protest. But in the end the only solution is that she either complies or she finds employment elsewhere. I hold public office and there is plenty of policies and laws that I find disagreeable... But my feelings on the matter are irrelevant to the performance of my duties.
And you know, people would probably respect her a lot more if she simply resigned because they conflicted with her core moral beliefs. Instead she demands that the system kowtow to her.
The solution it seems to me is to avoid situations where there is sure to be a clash. Don't ask a Christian bakery to design a wedding cake for a gay marriage and so on. Have some Danish and coffee and order your cake elsewhere.
You cannot lump the two together because one is public office and the other is a private enterprise. You're absolutely right about the baker reserving the right to refuse service, but Davis is a government employee.
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 66 of 103 (790533)
08-31-2016 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Faith
08-30-2016 5:41 AM


She had the job before the Supreme Court put her in a corner regarding her Christian faith.
Yes this is a victory for religious freedom. Gay marriage is a violation of God's Law.
So is getting married three separate times without it involving death or infidelity, which is the case with the philandering Kim Davis. But don't let that get in the way of a good moral defense, aye
"Woe to you, Pharisees! You hypocrites!" - Jesus of Nazareth

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 69 of 103 (790536)
08-31-2016 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Faith
08-31-2016 10:49 AM


And you think it's just fine that she was forced to accept a law against her conscience that was enacted after she had been in her position for a number of years? Certainly the world is going to do what it can to put Christians in this sort of position, it's a form of persecution. And we're going to have to live with it because more is coming. But there's something wrong with your attituder about it. Oh, but you aren't a Christian any more are you.
So then this is about religious convictions... We can assume then it would be acceptable for Jews or Muslims in public office to stone women on their periods then?

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 72 of 103 (790539)
08-31-2016 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Faith
08-31-2016 10:50 AM


She became a Christian after her divorces. Jesus saves sinners, remember? If she divorced now you could accuse her of hypocrisy; but otherwise you are just pulling the usual false anti-Christian fingerpointing.
ABE: Oh and by the way a while back you accused me of denying the scripture about women's headcovering. Why I don't know, something you assumed without knowledge. I've had a blog up on the subject for nine years arguing that we should cover our heads in church. So much for your honesty and fairness.
I'll bet you never speak in the church either, as Paul, through Almighty God, has commanded. Not that any of this is relevant to the conversation.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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