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Author Topic:   The Geological Timescale is Fiction whose only reality is stacks of rock
Pressie
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Message 993 of 1257 (790580)
09-01-2016 9:28 AM
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09-01-2016 9:12 AM


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Pressie
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Message 1077 of 1257 (790772)
09-05-2016 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1076 by Faith
09-05-2016 6:35 AM


Re: Moderator Suggestions and Comments
Faith writes:
It's more than denial. That dogmatic declarative way of telling us what we're supposed to believe, about something that couldn't possibly be proved although it's mere science, ought to be rejected by all, including you.
Oh, old earth models have been shown to work very well by exploration and mining companies all over the world.
For some reason YEC's always tend to forget about exploration and mining companies on forums such as these. They always forget to mention those.
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Message 1079 of 1257 (790774)
09-05-2016 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1078 by Faith
09-05-2016 7:04 AM


Re: Moderator Suggestions and Comments
Faith writes:
Sure they work.
Yeah, we know. Old earth models work for those exploration and mining companies. That's why they spend billions. Their models work.
Faith writes:
That's because you consistently confuse the physical level of a rock...
This doesn't make any sense. What the heck is 'the physical level of a rock'? You made that one up.
Faith writes:
... with the ridiculous ancient age you assign to it.
The outcrops of coals I investigated in the northern parts of the Witbank Coalfield were deposited on deltas, derived from glacial valleys forming in a fresh water lakes. I studied deltaic deposits Faith.
Faith writes:
The level is all you need to know, the age is a lie.
Not the age, Faith. The process. In my case, that's how I know that those coal deposits are very, very old. Those coal deposits were formed on deltas. Not global floods.
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Pressie
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Message 1081 of 1257 (790777)
09-05-2016 7:56 AM
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09-05-2016 7:36 AM


Re: Moderator Suggestions and Comments
Faith writes:
This isn't the thread for it but if you want to start another to defend your contention that what you are calling a delta was ever really a delta, and why it matters whether it was a delta or not, I'd be interested.
It sure is a relevant thread. The earth is very, very old. This is the thread to discuss it.

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Message 1122 of 1257 (790873)
09-07-2016 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1113 by Faith
09-06-2016 10:48 PM


Re: Geologic processes relative dating still adds up to a lot of time
Faith writes:
The chalk is a layer like all the layers laid down in the Flood. It extends from the UK to the Middle East.
And missed South Africa. So much for being global.

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Pressie
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Message 1125 of 1257 (790876)
09-07-2016 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1123 by Faith
09-07-2016 8:32 AM


Re: Geologic processes relative dating still adds up to a lot of time
Faith writes:
So much for being global? My my. I don't think there's a single stratigraphic column that is literally global. Why should there be?
You're starting to get it, Faith. There's is not even one stratigraphic column that's is literally global. In fact, all stratigraphic columns are different every few metres. It seems as if you're starting to get to it. That's basic geology.
Faith writes:
Just one of the usual nonsensical notions people come up with to try to debunk the Flood. Pathetic really.
Really? How so? The stratigraphic columns to the south of my house are completely different from the ones to the north of my house.
(To the geologists here; my house is built on the northward facing slopes of hills formed by the upper quartzites of the Transvaal Sequence, dipping south, while the contact between the Transvaal Sequence and the Bushveld Igneous Complex runs east-west around 50 to 100 m north of my house).
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Message 1138 of 1257 (790933)
09-08-2016 7:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1129 by Faith
09-07-2016 10:12 AM


Re: exposed strata, cliffs, just because
I'm still trying to figure this one out. Just the two first photos. The white chalk cliffs of Dover and a band of sandstones somewhere America were formed by a global flood because they both are white? Really?

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Message 1145 of 1257 (791004)
09-09-2016 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1144 by Stile
09-08-2016 11:16 AM


Re: The Very Slow Burying of a Chunk of Lead
We have our chunk of lead,..
I completely and utterly object to this. We don't get 'chunks' of lead. We do find lead containing minerals.
My favourite is Galena. It's absolutely beautiful. And heavy, too. It's lead grey, it has a metallic lustre and a grey streak; it's opaque in thin section and is white in polished section. It's space group is Fm3m. It' gets decomposed by sulpheric acid.
Galena also is one of the most abundant and widely distributed sulfide minerals. It crystallizes in the cubic crystal system often showing octahedral forms. It is often associated with the minerals sphalerite, calcite and fluorite. I't cleavage is [001] perfect and [111] parting. It's twinning shows penetration and contact twinning on {111}, with lamellar and deformation twins on other plains.
I tend to love lead-containing minerals.
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Pressie
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Message 1168 of 1257 (791429)
09-15-2016 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1167 by Faith
09-15-2016 1:46 AM


Re: The Great Martian Flood
Faith writes:
... but I certainly DO know that there was a worldwide Flood,...
Nope, you don't. You believe it.
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Pressie
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Message 1183 of 1257 (791627)
09-19-2016 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1182 by Faith
09-18-2016 5:27 PM


Faith writes:
The Martian strata don't look much like Earth's,...
Actually, those "strata" do look quite similar to quite a lot of "strata" found in the Beaufort-, Molteno-, Elliott- and Clarens Formations of the Karoo Sequence.

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Message 1184 of 1257 (791628)
09-19-2016 6:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1179 by ringo
09-17-2016 11:52 AM


Re: The Great Martian Flood
ringo writes:
How would One Giant Flood cause a lot of layers of the same material and the same thickness? Wouldn't you expect One Giant Layer?
One Flood would deposit a "layer" grading from course and big and huge at the bottom grading to very fine at the top. One layer grading from course at the bottom to fine at the top.
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Pressie
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Message 1196 of 1257 (791704)
09-20-2016 6:49 AM
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09-19-2016 11:51 AM


Re: The Great Martian Flood
ringo writes:
But Faith has decreed that the Flood "would be different" from everything we've ever observed and every experiment we've ever done. Yet there was no violation of physical laws and no miracle.
Yeah, just magic.

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Pressie
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Message 1209 of 1257 (791756)
09-21-2016 5:26 AM
Reply to: Message 1200 by edge
09-20-2016 11:50 AM


Re: One date
You should also add that we have evidence for the assumptions used.
Unlike what happens in Creationism, those assumptions in science are not wild guesses being pulled out of some random anus.
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Pressie
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Message 1213 of 1257 (791760)
09-21-2016 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1201 by Admin
09-20-2016 12:32 PM


Re: One date
Admin writes:
Playing devil's advocate, don't these assumptions completely undermine radiometric dating? If most of the daughter element dissipates,...
I'm not too sure what you mean by the word "dissipates". Could you explain what you mean with the word "dissipates"?

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Message 1214 of 1257 (791761)
09-21-2016 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1211 by Admin
09-21-2016 8:14 AM


Re: Thanks for Answers About Dating Assumptions
Admin writes:
Thank you for the clarifications about assumptions used in radiometric dating. Trying to summarize
Assumption 1: The sample has not been compromised in a way that has altered the concentrations of parent and daughter elements.
Not really. Crystals at formation under conditions on earth can't incorporate inert gases into the crystal lattices. Basic chemistry.
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