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Percy
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Message 4 of 31 (796241)
12-26-2016 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
12-26-2016 9:56 AM


RAZD writes:
Google scholar search on hacking voting machines has "About 12,900 results"
Google scholar search on fake moon landing and you get nearly twice as many results. I guess that makes it twice as true.
You're taking a different tack then I thought you would after seeing your comments in the The 2016 United States Presidential Election thread. Your voting machine excerpts are about things that *could* happen, not things that *did* happen, and gerrymandering has been going on since before the term was invented. Is there any evidence placing the outcome of the election in doubt? Or is this thread just about the hypothetical possibility of stealing a presidential election.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 6 of 31 (796255)
12-26-2016 11:10 PM
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12-26-2016 9:26 PM


RAZD writes:
Yes there is, but you have to be willing to look for it and you have to be willing to accept that it has occurred. Most people find that latter difficult, because we like to think the US is a model government.
No there isn't, but you have to be willing to accept that what you'd like to believe happened didn't really happen. It isn't uncommon for people who buy into conspiracy theories to find this difficult.
Why can't the major news organizations find this evidence that the outcome of the election is in doubt? Seems like it would be pretty big news involving opportunities for a Pulitzer or two - or are they part of the conspiracy, like the one where scientists are hiding the fact that evolution is a lie.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 9 of 31 (796264)
12-27-2016 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by ringo
12-27-2016 11:04 AM


Re: Riggers
ringo writes:
Why would lottery winners be more willing to serve?
As Heinlein once said, only those having to be dragged kicking and screaming into office could be considered qualified. This has probably been quoted here before.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 11 of 31 (796281)
12-28-2016 7:26 AM
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12-27-2016 12:21 PM


Re: Riggers
ringo writes:
That's my point. If I have to be dragged kicking and screaming into office, why would I do a good job?
If I recall the sense of the full passage correctly (it's been nearly a half century) that was just the punchline. Heinlein's actual point was that desiring an office should be a disqualification.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 14 of 31 (796304)
12-28-2016 4:52 PM
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12-28-2016 4:35 PM


Re: Let's start with the basics.
RAZD writes:
Why can't the major news organizations find this evidence that the outcome of the election is in doubt?
Really? You trust the Main Stream Media to report on this?
Really? You trust the alt-media to report on this?
You can look up the details of how much time they spent "reporting" on the different candidates, and if you don't think they had their hands in the propaganda war to pick our president, you are ignoring the facts.
If you don't think the alt-media is up to their elbows in propaganda and fake news, you are ignoring the evidence.
... major news organizations ...
Don't report actual news anymore.
Now you're just being a dick.
--Percy

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