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Faith 
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Message 101 of 4573 (797096)
01-11-2017 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by PaulK
01-11-2017 1:42 PM


Re: Fake news
I don't know enough about "pizzagate" to have an opinion about how true or false it may be. I heard bits and pieces of the original claims and that's it. It's certainly not obviously false. I can only wait to see if more comes out about it.
Yes I'm biased, I believe that what's false about Trump could be true about Clinton and her cronies, yes indeed. I also think that as a general policy the left accuses their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.
Nevertheless pizzagate hasn't been proved. I'll let you know when I know enough to have a solid opinion one way or the other.
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Message 193 of 4573 (797780)
01-27-2017 5:54 AM


And 180 degrees to the right...
The wide polarization between the Trump haters and Trump lovers continues to amaze me. Just about everything that's said about him here is the opposite of what I would say.
Is he lying about the size of the inauguration crowd? Well, I hadn't heard that he claimed it was bigger than Obama's, it seems pretty well known that Obama's outdid all other Presidents in that respect. What I heard was that he complained that the standard media photographed the crowd in such a way that its actual size was reduced. And at least one reporter I heard (conservative radio) who was covering the event, mentioned that there was a sea of people gathering behind him, which sounds like a good sized crowd.
And here's a case where some here would call him thin-skinned for caring about the size of the crowd, which to my mind is just another mean-spirited take on what I see as his determination not to let the media get away with lies. Nothing to do with thin skin, all about his determination to call out the media. As he did with that CNN reporter in his first press conference, refusing to take a question from him and calling him "fake news" because CNN had reported on the in/sane attempt to smear him with the Russian prostitute story. So I see him as refusing to let his detractors get away with their lies, and I applaud him. But those who are determined to put the worst possible spin on everything don't have the integrity to recognize that it is they who are at fault.
Trump makes a lot of us very happy. Finally we have a President who actually cares about America and cares about Americans and is clearly working hard already to do as much good to the nation as he can. In the teeth of leftist suspiciousness and lies. I find that admirable. Every executive order he's signed this last week is good fo the nation,* and that means good for all the naysayers as well, which you might recognize if you'd ever be able to get your head out of that toxic cloud of hatred against Trump and his supporters that emanates from the standard media.
That's a black joke, that moving the clock to closer to midnight. Based on what? Leftist fears invented out of nothing. Trump is a reasonable sane human being who is working for the good of the nation.
The leftist media are working up lies about Trump's stated objectives concerning illegal aliens, by pretending he's a threat to legal immigrants. Who was it, Cuomo's son who said they should start with him if they are going to deport immigrants? What utter evil lying in/sanity. Trump wants to deport CRIMINALS among the ILLEGAL ALIENS, he's very supportive of legal immigrants, and even toward the iillegal ones who are not criminals and are good workers and otherwise good citizens, who might be considered eligible for legal status as things progress on Trump's agenda. The media lies and lies and lies.
I guess Trum's detractors want their one world socialist order that bad, they hate America that much.
Yes. Sad.
What about the voter fraud investigation? Well, conservatives are objecting to that too, on the ground that there isn't any real evidence, but as I recall it was months ago that some researcher originally claimed to have found evidence of some three million illegal aliens voting. I don't know if any investigation could produce convincing evidence one way or the other, but since it's been seriously suggested I see no reason to assume Trump is doing anything other than promoting whatever is possible to find out the truth. Again, just can't stand the idea he lost? Nonsense, Trump really is interested in finding out the truth, and if it does turn out that they can show the allegations of fraud to be correct, wouldn't the left profit from that knowledge too? Shouldn't measures be taken to better protect the voting system from fraud?
ABE *His idea about how Mexico is going to contribute to the cost of the wall has been questioned by many, and rightly I think, since imposing a high tariff on Mexican goods is going to have Americans paying for the wall, not Mexico. But maybe we'll hear a correction to that idea soon.
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Message 195 of 4573 (797783)
01-27-2017 7:20 AM
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01-27-2017 7:05 AM


Re: And 180 degrees to the right...
I'm well aware of that. Must be great not having an African Muslim for a president, huh?
Aw, there it is, the Leftist lying spin. What's really really great is not having an America-hating racist Commie Muslim for a President and having an America-loving sane human being for a President. And it would be SO nice if what Martin Luther King advocated about judging people by their character and not their skin might actually become the reality it should be and was until Obama took us back to the racist swill on everything.

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Message 198 of 4573 (797789)
01-27-2017 9:11 AM
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01-27-2017 8:52 AM


Re: And 180 degrees to the right...
Very little if any time is being spent on this so that's a nonissue. He's certainly getting a LOT done this week, what a strange thing for you to say. And as I said I understand his motivation to be the exposure of media deceit, and he's really not interested in the numbers himself. But he's very interested in media deceit.
I consider this to be in line with the purpose of this thread, but Percy may not so I'm going to make this my last post.

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Message 200 of 4573 (797796)
01-27-2017 11:08 AM
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01-27-2017 10:23 AM


Re: And 180 degrees to the right...
Nevertheless his interest in the numbers may be predominantly in the fact that the media misrepresented them, in their neverending quest to diminish his Presidency.

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Message 203 of 4573 (797808)
01-27-2017 12:28 PM
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01-27-2017 11:39 AM


Re: And 180 degrees to the right...
He didn't complain about his crowd size. He complained about how the media misrepresented it.
We conservatives have watched the media lie and manipulate in favor of the Left and against the Right for years. Oh yes they do. the lies have even become more blatant through the Trump candidacy.

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Faith 
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Message 206 of 4573 (797811)
01-27-2017 12:43 PM
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01-27-2017 12:37 PM


Re: And 180 degrees to the right...
I've seen for myself that the media lie about him, and one way they lie is by accusing him of lying.

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Message 208 of 4573 (797814)
01-27-2017 1:16 PM
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01-27-2017 1:08 PM


Re: And 180 degrees to the right...
Nope, he's not lying, the media are.

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Message 327 of 4573 (799389)
02-09-2017 7:54 PM


Sorry, wrong thread.
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Message 2251 of 4573 (837003)
07-25-2018 1:40 PM
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07-25-2018 12:15 PM


Re: .50 Cal Jesus Kills for your Sins
Hey I like that video of Trump. "Lashing out?" Doesn't have that flavor to me. He's doing what we want him to do, point out when the media are over the line.

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Message 2796 of 4573 (849945)
03-26-2019 1:16 PM
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03-25-2019 1:21 PM


Re: The Barr Letter on the Mueller Report
Sorry, not supposed to post on this thread.
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Message 2819 of 4573 (850638)
04-11-2019 12:19 PM
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04-11-2019 12:09 PM


Re: Julian Assange Arrested
Drat, keep forgetting I'm on this thread.
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Message 3183 of 4573 (860689)
08-10-2019 12:04 AM
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08-09-2019 5:55 PM


sorry, wrong thread
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Message 3256 of 4573 (861803)
08-27-2019 10:49 AM
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08-26-2019 6:43 PM


Sorry, wrong thread
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