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NoNukes Inactive Member |
And the Acting Attorney General warned Trump about the legal issues. Trump's attempt to deflect is straight out of the "L. Ron Hubbard" [1] playbook: Trump knew of DOJ probe into Flynn and Russia for weeks, Pence only days | CNN Politics
quote: [1]"NEVER agree to an investigation of Scientology. ONLY agree to an investigation of the attackers." L. Ron Hubbard. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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I'm guessing he'll just say that he knew nothing about what Flynn was doing. That's hardly credible, but when has this ever bothered the Trumpster ? Trump claiming to be ignorant of the facts sounds pretty damn credible to me.
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Porosity Member (Idle past 2093 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined:
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Not looking good for Trump and his dream team.
Trump Administration Caught In Lie About Campaign Contacts With Russians
WASHINGTON ― U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies have confirmed that President Donald Trump’s campaign aides and associates had constant contact with Russian intelligence officials before the election, directly contradicting public statements made by top administration officials.
Trump Administration Caught In Lie About Campaign Contacts With Russians | HuffPost Latest News
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... and I wonder if an honourable person could take the AG role) Well we now have Sessions, so that should answer your question. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Not looking good for Trump and his dream team. Indeed the shoes are dropping fast.
Intelligence Committee will investigate possible Russia-Trump links "Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) said late Friday ..."
GOP senator calls for exhaustive investigation into Trump-Russia connections "Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) on Tuesday said there should be an exhaustive investigation into the ties between Russia and the Trump administration." That's two republicans on the Intelligence Committee -- so we can be pretty sure that investigation will occur.
House Democrats Demand Michael Flynn Probe In Yet Another Committee "Democratic members on the House Foreign Affairs Committee are calling for a separate investigation ... " Watch this space. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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vimesey Member Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Just read Trump's latest tweets on the matter. Do they seem a little flaccid to you, compared to his previous forays ?
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Porosity writes:
In the next four years, he may have to go through everybody who voted for him to keep his dream team filled.
Not looking good for Trump and his dream team.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
quote: If anything, Democrats might be inclined to be less anti-Russian than the GOP. Party partisanship has caused Democrats to become more anti-Russian. Trump is something of an outlier among the GOP. I never could figure out all the complexities of Russian intelligence. They seem to be in a lot of places. Lots of anti E.U. propaganda comes either from the CIA or Russian intelligence. SOMEBODY has convinced blacks, in the U.S.A., that the E.U. is "neo Nazi" even though the various right wing movements in Europe are very anti E.U. I was just told by a Puerto Rican that he is sick and tired of constantly hearing people say that "Europeans burnt the library of Alexandria" (a favorite claim among black nationalists who say that whites destroyed black history) when it was the pagan Greeks that founded and maintained the library until the NATIVE EGYPTIAN COPTS burnt it and flayed Hypatia. He has trouble with all the propaganda and is getting sick of people not listening to him. I was just told, by a black, that I would get killed in prison for saying good things about Alexander and ANCIENT Greece. I ALREADY KNEW THAT. You can't say anything good about modern Greece without listening to a rant. I'm just wondering if the Russians are going along with anti-Greek propaganda (though the two get along well) or if it is all CIA. I think the Greeks are almost as hated as Jews in the black community. I brought up Bernie Sanders to a black friend and he went on a rant about how he was a "Zionist spy" and I was hoping he actually didn't know Sanders was Jewish (took me about two seconds to find out my hopes were in vain). I don't know where all this crap is coming from. (also I forgot to mention that I have been told, by multiple blacks, that "Russians love backs" and any claim to the contrary is American propaganda. Western Europeans hate blacks and Russians love them seems to be a theme.) Democrats are partisan skunks that repel the average human, but there really is something to all this Russian-intel conspiracy theory stuff (despite the conspiracy theories inspired by raw partisanship, on the one hand, and warmongering on the other).
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
quote: Do you actually think Trump cares? I think he did care a little about getting elected in the first place (so some, and only some, of his anger during the campaign might have been somewhat "real" and not manufactured) but I almost think that he might be trying to blow things up for some esoteric reason. I am wondering/thinking he is convinced that the nation and the world is a nationalistic mess already, so he will try to become a parody of Archie Bunker (who was already a parody) just to show "what happens" when something or another along those lines takes total control. I'm not sure what he is trying to do, but the GOP will get close to 60 Senate seats in a few years. The last time the GOP had (near) total control, the nation ended up in a mess (after the September 23 2008 collapse), and Trump might not be opposed to blowing things up again just for sport. I don't know.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I was just told by a Puerto Rican that he is sick and tired of constantly hearing people say that "Europeans burnt the library of Alexandria" (a favorite claim among black nationalists who say that whites destroyed black history) when it was the pagan Greeks that founded and maintained the library until the NATIVE EGYPTIAN COPTS burnt it and flayed Hypatia. He has trouble with all the propaganda and is getting sick of people not listening to him. Nobody really knows who burned the library. There are several possibilities only one of which matches the group you seem to be absolutely sure is guilty. One of the possible groups includes an accidental burning by Roman soldiers which would fit the answer that your Puerto Rican acquaintance hates. Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia
quote: As regard to how Greeks are viewed in the black community, your conclusion is equally full of shite. Yes, there are some anti-semitic black folks, cannot argue with that, but is that really some major thing in the black community? Absolutely not. Some whites are anti-semitic. Can we conclude that the white community hates Jews? About two or three sentences of this rant are actually on topic. The rest is your usual. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
What the fuck does the fact a person is Puerto Rican or black have to do with any of your drivel?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Percy Member Posts: 22389 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Again let me apologize for moderating my own thread. I'll continue using what is hopefully a light hand.
This thread is for rational and reasonable discussion of the Trump presidency that is rooted in fact. Anything else is off-topic. Thanks. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Puzder withdraws name and rides off into the sunset. Who was that masked man?
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Porosity Member (Idle past 2093 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined: |
In the next four years, he may have to go through everybody who voted for him to keep his dream team filled. At this pace of dumb fuckery? I don't see him lasting through the year without impeachment or stroking out.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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At this pace of dumb fuckery? I don't see him lasting through the year without impeachment or stroking out. And I certainly don't think any appointments should be approved until this Russian scandal is sorted out -- if Russia did alter the outcome of the election in exchange for lifting sanctions that is treason. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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