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NosyNed Member Posts: 9012 From: Canada Joined:
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We all know thousands of Canadians personally who have to come hear because Canadian healthcare, in their own words, "sucks". This is ridiculous on a number of fronts:1) No one knows thousands of people personally. 2) The total number of canadians that went out of Canada to all destinations for health care last year was 52,000.Latest Breaking News, Headlines & Updates | National Post This is 1.1 percent. Out of those 52,000 you don't know any personally do you? 3) It is interesting that the whole plot of "Breaking Bad" doesn't make any sense here. My sister-in-law is in hospital right now (for weeks) for cancer treatment and there is zero, nada, zip worry about bills. There is no way I would want to deal with the US system. Ours might not be the best in the world but it is head and shoulders above the US system. (Unless, of course, you are rich in which case you don't care where you are just fly to Europe for care).
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 22953 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
I had to check the calendar and make sure it isn't April 1st, but the Washington Post is reporting that President Trump is willing to compromise on immigration:
quote: Article: Trump says he is open to immigration compromise that provides a pathway to legal status The New York Times is reporting the same thing: Trump Signals Drastic Shift on Immigrants Fox News reported this in a more tempered fashion: Trump voices support for immigration bill ahead of speech to Congress:
quote: Chris Wallace called him a "kinder, gentler Donald Trump." Hard to believe. It's hard to know how seriously to take this, we'll have to see what develops. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Maybe he read the writing on the wall?
AbE: But why not a path to citizenship? If Trump spent the next four years turning illegal immigrants into US Citizens because of Donald Trump is there any way he could be defeated? Why not turn those three million fraudulent votes from illegal immigrants into three million legal votes for the man who led them to FREEDOM, FREEDOM Shout it from the rooftops, PRAISE god and TRUMP that FREEDOM RINGS. Edited by jar, : see AbE:
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Chris Wallace called him a "kinder, gentler Donald Trump." Hard to believe. It's hard to know how seriously to take this, we'll have to see what develops. What if in addition to the wing nut stuff Trump does, he manages to pull of some version of comprehensive immigration reform, while putting in place a half-way decent health care replacement (meaning something other than y'all poor folks hurry up and die)? Goodbye democrats forever? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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NN writes: What if in addition to the wing nut stuff Trump does, he manages to pull of some version of comprehensive immigration reform, while putting in place a half-way decent health care replacement (meaning something other than y'all poor folks hurry up and die)? Goodbye democrats forever? As Newt Gingrich said back when he actually was a power to be reckoned with, the Party that puts a Universal Health Care system in place will hold the power for at least two generations.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1662 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
As Newt Gingrich said back when he actually was a power to be reckoned with, the Party that puts a Universal Health Care system in place will hold the power for at least two generations. Indeed, if he can bully republicans and democrats into a bipartisan immigration reform (there are old bills he can revive) AND get universal healthcare, then he will likely be reelected by a landslide. But what souls will need to be sold to get there from other progroms. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If he is smart then the cost will be from programs where the damage can be hidden for decades. The obvious place he will look is the environment. He can rape the lands and as long as he avoids the tourist spots not create too great a backlash. He can rape the streams and until it shows up in a major cities water supply there will be no backlash and when that does happen he can blame the City Manager. And raping the environment will easily generate the cash needed to do both.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1662 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
If he is smart then the cost will be from programs where the damage can be hidden for decades. ... Looks like his attempt to take money out of State Dept for "soft tools" (humanitarian programs to bolster US image) is a big failure with top GOP being against it
quote: Outside the US so most (Trump base) Americans likely to think it's no big deal (the "why should we give aid to X when veterans are on the street" crowd) Enjoy 'by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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Even in the midst of Michael Flynn's leaving the administration under a cloud Jeff Sessions did not see fit to reveal during his confirmation hearings that he had his own meetings with Russian intelligence officials during the election campaign.
What the hell happened here? It's almost like Putin was vetting his own choices for the Trump administration positions. Putin: My little Donaldova, this Betsy DeVos, she is brain dead this one. We would choose her to destroy your education system. You make this happen, da? Trump: Yes, of course, Vladimir Vladimirovich. |
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Percy Member Posts: 22953 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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It was today reported in the Washington Post that young "dreamer" Daniela Vargas was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement for overstaying her DACA registration after letting her prior one expire. DACA stands for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, aka the Dreamer program. Vargas arrived in this country when she was 7.
When Trump says only criminals are being deported, he is lying. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It gets worse as I pointed out in Message 732:
Last Wednesday she was one of the speakers at a rally opposing the current deportation frenzy.
quote: source The story continues:
quote: Her father and brother were already arrested and they to had not committed any criminal acts. The mother is Arizona when was arrested and deported when she reported in to immigration for her annual check as she had been told to do also had not committed any criminal offense. The person who was taken into custody in the court house after her hearing for an order of protection against her boyfriend after ICE got an anonymous tip where an illegal alien might be found was also hardly a threat to the US. It seems the Trump immigration policy is "If you're Brown you're going down".
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It seems we may have heard that advice regarding another Republican President or two.
Trump claimed he never did business with Russia yet without financial disclosure there is no way to tell how indebted President Trump might be due to Russian financing. As a first baby step Trump should at least do what he pledged to do and release his tax returns. Can we afford a President who may owe money to Russian Bank or worse, other Russian financing? When the US and European banks refused to lend Trump any more money based on all of his business failures and bankruptcies, where did he go to find funding?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 992 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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A comic strip in our newspaper called "Soup to Nuts" addressed this today. The brothers were watching TV, where someone said "immigration is the greatest threat to all Americans." The first-grader said, "Isn't the Statue of Liberty an immigrant?"
No telling who was on the TV..../s
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Genomicus Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 852 Joined: |
Well, Lady Liberty is okay because she immigrated "the right way." *rolls eyes*
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