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Dr Adequate
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Message 31 of 960 (801256)
03-04-2017 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Faith
03-04-2017 5:19 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Use your head. I identified one problem, you identified another. I did not support any particular solution. How about suggesting a reasonable solution?
Reasonable solution: conservative bigots stop making stupid laws to solve a "problem" which they know damn well doesn't exist.

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Message 32 of 960 (801257)
03-04-2017 5:25 PM
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03-04-2017 5:19 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Use your head. I identified one problem, you identified another. I did not support any particular solution. How about suggesting a reasonable solution?
Educate people to eliminate their unfounded fears.

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Message 33 of 960 (801258)
03-04-2017 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Tangle
03-04-2017 12:10 PM


But I can't make the Christian thing work unless I chuck away the entire New Testament. ...
The fire and brimstone "you're going to hell" sermons tell you to obey obey obey, and that inculcates the authoritarian subservience to misogyny and domination. Know your place and don't rock the boat.
So yes, it is the OT that is the hammer ...
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Faith 
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Message 34 of 960 (801260)
03-04-2017 5:28 PM
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03-04-2017 5:25 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
It isn't a fear of something happening we're talking about, it's a social situation no child should be forced to experience, and their anxiety about it is natural, not something to be educated out of. COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.

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Modulous
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Message 35 of 960 (801263)
03-04-2017 5:37 PM
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03-04-2017 5:28 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
It isn't a fear of something happening we're talking about, it's a social situation no child should be forced to experience
Why?
their anxiety about it is natural
How do you know this? How is not about a fear of something happening but it is about anxiety? What's the anxiety?
not something to be educated out of
Why not?
COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.
My solution worked when people felt 'naturally anxious' about sharing bathrooms with other races. I don't see why there is a need to use some other solution.

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Faith 
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Message 36 of 960 (801264)
03-04-2017 5:39 PM
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03-04-2017 12:10 PM


The New Testament doesn't apply to nations. I don't know how many times I have to say this before somebody might at least remember that I said it, instead of starting all over from scratch with the same old stupid questions every time. Christians love God's law, and the political issues we are dealing with are all about law. Jesus addresses individuals, not nations, and He saves us from the Law, but the Law doesn't stop applying to nations just because individuals are saved from it.

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Faith 
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Message 37 of 960 (801265)
03-04-2017 5:41 PM
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03-04-2017 5:37 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Oh for crying out loud. The sexes are different from each other. Wow, what a concept. Races are all human beings, male and female. Duh. It's natural and it's civilized to separate the sexes in bathrooms. Duh.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Tangle
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Message 38 of 960 (801267)
03-04-2017 5:47 PM
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03-04-2017 5:39 PM


Faith writes:
The New Testament doesn't apply to nations.
What utter crap.
Think through the consequencies of this belief. Nations do not have to follow the teachings of Christ. Jesus.....

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 39 of 960 (801268)
03-04-2017 5:48 PM


Isn't enough, enough
Time to stop feeding the troll.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

  
Dr Adequate
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Message 40 of 960 (801269)
03-04-2017 5:48 PM
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03-04-2017 5:28 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
It isn't a fear of something happening we're talking about, it's a social situation no child should be forced to experience ...
... and which conservatives wish to make mandatory under penalty of prosecution.

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Modulous
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Message 41 of 960 (801270)
03-04-2017 5:49 PM
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03-04-2017 5:41 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Oh for crying out loud. The sexes are different from each other. Wow, what a concept. Races are all human beings, male and female. Duh.
The sexes are different from one another, but so are the races. Fear and anxiety drove white people to want black people to use separate facilities. Education eventually mostly cured this anxiety.
You didn't answer my questions. What's the problem with children using a bathroom with a transgender person? How do you know the anxiety is natural? How is it not about fear but it is about anxiety? Why can we not educate people away from these anxieties? Why come up with a solution different than one that has worked before? Boys, girls, men, women have for centuries shared bathroom and bathing facilities without anxieties or fears - I see no reason we are incapable of doing it again.
Where should transgendered people go to the bathroom while you are complaining about solutions not being good enough?
Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 42 of 960 (801271)
03-04-2017 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Faith
03-04-2017 5:39 PM


The New Testament doesn't apply to nations. I don't know how many times I have to say this before somebody might at least remember that I said it ...
We all know that you said it, what was wrong with it, and how you were unable to rebut any of the faults we found with it. My memory of you losing this argument is crystal-clear. Yours may need refreshing.

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Faith 
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Message 43 of 960 (801272)
03-04-2017 5:51 PM
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03-04-2017 5:49 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Why can't Leftists tell the difference between a socially determined attitude and a natural fact.

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Faith 
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Message 44 of 960 (801273)
03-04-2017 5:51 PM
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03-04-2017 5:50 PM


There's no way for me to have lost such an argument with an idiot atheist Leftist.

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Modulous
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Message 45 of 960 (801274)
03-04-2017 5:53 PM
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03-04-2017 5:51 PM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Why can't Leftists tell the difference between a socially determined attitude and a natural fact.
I don't know, why can't Leftists tell the difference between a socially determined attitude and a natural fact. Wait, that wasn't a setup to a joke?
Faith, we can't come up with solutions that we're all happy are good and effective if we don't communicate. Please answer my questions, in understanding your perspective maybe we can accommodate your concerns. I can't do that if when I ask you to detail them you dismiss me because I'm a {political enemy}.

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