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Author Topic:   The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right
Dr Adequate
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Message 296 of 960 (801906)
03-10-2017 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by Faith
03-09-2017 11:57 PM


Re: a matter of conscience
That's ridiculous.
In what way? If a good Christian hotelier is prohibited from gay people with a bed for sexing on, why would it be OK for a furniture store? And if the prohibition applies to beds, why not to couches or carpets? And if the prohibition applies to gay sex, why not all the other sins?
For example, before selling an office chair, shouldn't a devout Christian check that no-one's going to be committing usury in it? If not, why not? (Of course, we know why not, but you can't admit it.)

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Message 298 of 960 (801909)
03-10-2017 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 295 by New Cat's Eye
03-10-2017 10:26 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Ha ha. No, I'm saying we don't need it. Capitalists and a free market would sort it out.
You mean the same way they sorted out racial segregation? (which presumably must have originated during the little-discussed Communist era of American history, or capitalists and the free market would never have let it arise in the first place).

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Dr Adequate
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Message 300 of 960 (801914)
03-10-2017 11:14 AM
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03-10-2017 10:13 AM


I think looking to the feds to provide you with how to think about something is pretty totalitarian.
When the topic is how to think about what the policies of the federal government are, then the federal government is kind of uniquely qualified to tell you how to think about that. Of course, people are free to take a wild guess instead.
You call that totalitarian? That's like saying "John is so henpecked, he lets his wife tell him what to think about what her favorite foods are instead of making up his own mind about what she likes to eat."

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Dr Adequate
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Message 301 of 960 (801915)
03-10-2017 11:22 AM
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03-10-2017 11:04 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
Today, we have near instantaneous communication between practically all of the potential patrons of an establishment, and if there is even a hint of bigotry the public jumps all over the business and calls them out.
Which will work fine in locations where the proportion of bigots is small. In other places, the public will jump all over a hint of non-bigotry.
Also, racial segregation was mandated by the state by law.
Until capitalists won their long struggle for civil rights. (Some black people helped as well, I believe.) Well, that makes the situation very different from a bathroom bill, which is hardly a law at all.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 303 of 960 (801921)
03-10-2017 11:49 AM
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03-10-2017 11:40 AM


Re: The racism is all coming from the Left
For example all those places where the politicians know that they will attract more popular approval than disdain for passing bathroom bills.

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Message 307 of 960 (801932)
03-10-2017 1:44 PM
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03-10-2017 1:29 PM


Re: a matter of conscience
I'm for letting the business owner decide.
Well we tried that but they decided that serving black people was ungodly.
I don't see any biblical problem ...
Why not? Is there one of Paul's epistles I've overlooked that says it's OK to supply some kinds of sinners with some kinds of furniture on which to commit some kinds of sins, but not others?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 347 of 960 (802510)
03-17-2017 10:22 AM
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03-05-2017 7:01 AM


Re: The transphobia is all coming from the Right
I still think if you can pass there shouldn't be a problem using the bathroom where you can fit in. So I disagree with the law that demands going where your birth sex wants you to go. Does that take care of this issue?
Not quite. Who decides who fits in? What if you have two X chromosomes, were born a woman, identify as a woman, but look kinda butch?
For example ... Woman Sues Restaurant That Ejected Her From Bathroom for Looking 'Like a Man'.

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Message 400 of 960 (802906)
03-21-2017 3:12 PM


Christian Extremist Says Conservative Tomi Lahren Should Be Executed for Defending Abortion Rights.
But liberals sometimes say conservatives are wrong, so that's basically the same thing.

  
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Message 409 of 960 (802928)
03-21-2017 9:03 PM
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03-21-2017 8:58 PM


Re: Totalitarian defined
No they don't really exist, it's all made up.
Riiiight. But, just to check, you white heterosexual Christians really are being oppressed, aren't you? Unlike everyone else.
There has never been such racial conflict in this country as has been drummed up over the last eight years by the Left.
Words fail me but fortunately they are unnecessary.

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Message 413 of 960 (802936)
03-22-2017 8:25 AM
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03-22-2017 6:30 AM


Sorry, meant since the Civil Rights era of course. Things have been getting better since then but Obama stirred it all up again.
During the Rodney King riots when Bush Sr. was President 2000 people were injured and 55 people were killed. Imagine how delighted conservatives would have been if this had happened when Obama was President. But it didn't.
And the white privilege stuff is destructive propaganda, contrary to the spirit of MLK and the spirit of the melting pot.
Some might suggest that it's the existence of white privilege that's "contrary to the spirit of MLK and the spirit of the melting pot". But no, according to you, it's mentioning its existence that MLK wouldn't approve of. Perhaps you live in an alternate reality where he said "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where no-one will object or even so much as mention it if they are judged by the color of their skin instead of the content of their character."

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Message 415 of 960 (802943)
03-22-2017 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 414 by New Cat's Eye
03-22-2017 9:39 AM


Re: Thread Misuses the Word "Totalitarian"
To use the dictionary's terms: I see people subordinating their individual selves to a centralized authoritarian and autocratic hierarchy to control personal aspects of their lives. They're looking to the federal government to help them figure out which bathrooms people should use, for crying out loud.
That's like pointing to the First Amendment and saying: "They're looking to the federal government to help them figure out who should have freedom of speech, for crying out loud."

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Dr Adequate
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Message 426 of 960 (803011)
03-22-2017 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 416 by New Cat's Eye
03-22-2017 10:54 AM


Re: Thread Misuses the Word "Totalitarian"
No, not at all. The first amendment prevents the federal government from violating a preexisting right. It limits the government rather than giving it more authority.
It doesn't identify people's characteristics and tell people how to behave. All it does is say what congress cannot do.
That's the opposite of these guidelines and the mentality of expecting the federal government to advise you on which bathrooms people should use.
If you have been living under a rock for the past few years I advise you to come out from under it and look up the facts on this great new thing we have called the internet.

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Message 554 of 960 (809647)
05-19-2017 11:02 PM
Reply to: Message 553 by Faith
05-19-2017 10:52 PM


"Leftist Totalitarian Tactics" AKA Free Speech.
Just saw a headline at Yahoo about the White House looking into the law about impeachment. Every day there is something on that page implying some kind of error by Trump, some kind of hot water he's supposedly in. Some of it has some truth to it but overall it's hard to escape the impression that this IS a witch hunt,
Scary to think that we could have a Leftist coup, the overthrow of a legitimately elected President, against the will of half the voting population, based on absolutely nothing.
No dear, that would require actual sticks and stones.

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Message 559 of 960 (809652)
05-19-2017 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 558 by Faith
05-19-2017 11:46 PM


Re: the Leftist Totalitarian Tactics haven't let up
Nothing has ever been done to any President like what is being done to Trump.
No President has ever been like Trump.

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Message 582 of 960 (809842)
05-21-2017 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 580 by Faith
05-21-2017 1:13 PM


Oh I think there's plenty of extant evidence against Obama but the Left keeps it under wraps. Because they can, because they have the power.
But without having, for example, the Presidency, the House, the Senate, or the Justice Department. But they still have so much power. I guess voting Republican is totally pointless then, if even when the Republicans win the Democrats still get to make all the important decisions. You guys should stop voting, it changes nothing and costs you in gas money.

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