The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right

Which is the one thing that gives me pause. It will be horrific and the thought of my own family going through it scares me to death. But they won't listen to me; it leaves me in despair for them.One thing that's good about wishing for the rapture is getting to say something about just how bad it will be for those left behind. Maybe some will wake up.
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Things have to get pretty bleak on earth to allow myself to wish to be raptured, and it is looking pretty hopeless to me these days when I think about people's getting further and further from any kind of openness to God and more and more committed to the evil that is growing on the earth by leaps and bounds. The book is about what the Bible says. What else could it be about? And it's written by a preacher. It's better at making sense of how certain passages come together than other discussions of the end times events I've seen. Nobody can read the Bible and completely understand it; that's why God tgives us teachers and preachers who can bring out meanings we miss. Instead of ignoring the possibility perhaps you need to consider it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Here's the thing: It has come to look like living through the worsening times we live in could be as bad as going through the Tribulation. I can't wish either on anybody, but choosing between them has become difficult.

This book, The Rapture: Don't Be Deceived, by pastor Billy Crone, argues, effectively I think, that the Holy Spirit can't be taken away, but His work through the Church can be when Christians are raptured off the earth. So people can still be saved, still pray, still have the Holy Spirit, but they're going to have to do it all from scratch as it were, and in an extraordinarly inhospitable environment. It is very encouraging to read in the Book of Revelation about the uncountable multitude who come through the Tribulation saved.The thing about where we're headed now is into deeper and deeper sinfulness' as the world abandons God. That has to happen I suppose, before the end comes, but would it be better for, say, my grandsons to be subjected to that increasing pollution of their souls or just have to deal with the physical sufferings in the Tribulation?: I AM happy, however, that the elder grandson, thanks to my efforts, knows enough about the gospel to be interested, in spite of the anti-Christian influences that also surround him. So I pray he'll be saved, and his little brother too when he's old enough to understand it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You are implying that I enjoy being hated or even seek it. As a matter of fact every time I write a post I think I'll finally get through to somebody. I'm always wrong, it's always a slap in the face. I keep being amazed by that.

[qs] It is white privilege and Christian privilege.

Lying propaganda straight out of the Marxist playbook designed to promote class warfare by inventing Oppressor-Oppressed classes and encouraging the persecution of one by the other. It ought to be recognized as akin to shouting fire in a packed theater, and prosecuted.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Marxism is a hate purveryor that always ultimately promotes murder. You don't need to refer to Marx to make any point you want about people's special needs.

No they don't really exist, it's all made up. It's a lie and a dangerous lie. You need to use other terms for what you are describing because the blanket Marxist terms are false and incendiary. We're supposed to be a melting pot not a seethihg mass of warring factions which is what Marxism creates. There has never been such racial conflict in this country as has been drummed up over the last eight years by the Left.

Sorry, meant since the Civil Rights era of course. Things have been getting better since then but Obama stirred it all up again.And the white privilege stuff is destructive propaganda, contrary to the spirit of MLK and the spirit of the melting pot.; It prevents dealing with people as individuals and problems in reality rather than by a fake blanket explanation for everything. It promotes race division and hatred. That's Marxism, that's not America.

Just wondering what "fake Christians" you have in mind? I've never heard of any kind of Christians who say Jesus' teachings are for the Jews only, and all the Christians I've ever known are very zealous for doing good works.

But this is merely a way to obscure the point here.As I tried to say earlier on the thread*, totalitarianism is first of all an ideology or built into an ideology. Marxism is such an ideology, it was totalitarian before there ever was a totalitarian Marxist state. "Brutality, torture and atrocities" certainly are synonymous with totalitarian states, but they are implicit in the ideologies even before there is a state built on them. I mentioned that Roman Catholicism is totalitarian in its beliefs, principles you can find in its official documents even now, and that fact was demonstrated in its "brutality, torture and atrocities" when it had the power to enforce its beliefs on Europe. Same with Islam, it's a totalitarian ideology, which is proved when it has the power to act on its principles. Totalitarianism aims to rule everybody, to require conformity to its principles. That describes Marxism/Communism, Roman Catholicism and Islam, and fascism too.Today's American Left shows its fundamental totalitarianism by its violent riots against an elected American President, the calls you hear for his assassination from some on the Left, the very attitude that they are not going to allow him to BE President, they intend to force THEIR view of things on all of us. Yes, that IS totalitarian, and yes one of its weapons IS political correctness, a method of demonizing the opposition by character assassination to shut us up.I don't remember where I posted Tim Allen's comments** that our times feel like Germany in the 30s, should have been somewhere on this thread. He's right, and that atmosphere is wannabe totalitarianism. You aren't allowed to have a dissenting opinion, they'll scowl you down, they'll call you names, they'll yell at you. There's even already been some brutality, torture and atrocities here and there by anti-Trumpers, and anti-white racism as well: it doesn't characterize the whole Left, but it is certainly a Leftist attitude promoted by Leftist powers.The Left is no longer acting like a liberal democracy, don't be deceived about that, they are acting like totalitarians.ABE: *Turns out it was on the Gay Marriage thread where I made these points about totalitarianism, particularly in Message 516**The Tim Allen post was on the Gay Marriage thread, in Message 522 Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I call the gay marriage law wrong and unjust, certainly in the context of a nation built on freedom of religion among other freedoms, but I haven't called it totalitarian though it is certainly part of the totalitarian thinking of the Left. See my previous post.ABE: Actually I see I did argue that the gay marriage law is ideologically totalitarian on the Gay Marriage thread, in Message 516. Just one law isn't enough for a definition of totalitarianism, but since it does force conformity to a view opposed by a large part of the population that used to be protected by the First Amendment maybe that's a better argument than my argument here.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The point is the First Amendment that promises religious freedom is prior. Punishing Christians for acting on their religious beliefs is a violation of the First Amendment. You need another solution to your problem.ABE: I'm talking about gay marriage here. The bathroom problem \is something else.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't recall any discussion by the Founders of competing freedoms. Can you produce a quote from that era? I think there is something unique about this gay marriage law, that never came up before. And Freedom of Religion is the very first of the Ten Amendments too. " ...nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The gay marriage law when it collides with biblical Christianity has in fact already been used to prohibit the free exercise of Christian belief. So if there is a conflict, religious rights should have priority. But again, show where the Founders anticipated any conflict of rights. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

First of all, that's a bogus bit of liberalism that tells us our freedom of religion consists in merely believing and keeping our practices private. "The free exercise thereof" implies the right to act upon our beliefs in the public arena, and always has implied that.And yes there is no conflict between rights and freedoms that the Founders had any inkling of, except denominational tyrannies and anti-religious opinion that wants to suppress religious freedom. That's not a right or freedom, that's a suppressive tyrannical point of view. There is no right to a freedom FROM religion despite the attempt to push such a silly idea. If there were such a right implied by simply having an opinion that right would be first of all assigned to those who are religious since that's written down in the First Amendment. So if there is such a right, and of course the idea is absurd, religious people would have the right to freedom FROM atheism.The only conflict that has ever arisen is the bogus interracial marriage "conflict" which has no biblical support whatever. The passage in Genesis starting with God's saying that it's not good for man to be alone and conclusing with 2:24 defining marriage as a man leaving his family and cleaving to his wife, by which cleaving they become "one flesh" is about man and woman and nothing whatever about race and certainly nothing whatever implying that two of the same sex can marry.So, yes, I think we need to hear from the Founders about this supposed conflict of rights and freedoms.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.