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Message 24 of 85 (803994)
04-06-2017 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by PaulK
04-06-2017 8:16 AM


Re: No way the strata represent great eras of time
Well done Faith.....

Not so well done, Coyote, as your 'stakes' are rather RARE and uncooked, untested, and unscientific.

But good on ya, for proposed this NEW TOPIC and getting it approved instantly. I told you could do it, at Proposed New Topics and you did.
Ive been trying to suggest NEW TOPICS, there for a while and haven;t succeeded as yet.

Anyway your shots in the dark and slow nothing ever happens around HERE, non catastrophic events dogma (except for comets hitting the heads of dinosaurs and making them extinct) of evolution, is contrary to the geological evidence, as even seen by Darwin himself.

But lets get at the exact year of the Flood and the numerous and multiple ways a true scientist and researcher can find out when it happened. No billions or trillions of years, and new estimates and new projections and guesses like with your folks, just simple math, simple measurements, obvious connections with historical landmarks etc etc.

Its a multifaceted confirmed over and over again and again dating system that anyone can prove for themselves.

But first HERE are the basic articles from my research

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/NoahsArk.html

20 articles, maybe six of them referring to the timeline of History, all hyperlinked and cohesively together

This can be cross-referenced with the prophetic MARKER of

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/GreatPyramidProphecy.html

Again confirming the Biblical exact year of 2348 BC

Amazingly perfectly matching the number of seconds in a day corelation with the GENESIS exact year dating

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/OneDayTilNoahsFlood.html

This all perfectly co-related to the so called boring Genesis account, that has no missing links, but exact years

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/ForeFathersGraphic.html

So from every angle, every direction, every resource, all history points to the Worldwide Flood taking place in 2348 BC.

That was downhill, or descending until the ascending of Earths planned and Designed History ... see Great Pyramid Prophecy for further details

The overall historic confirmed points of contact and progression of the DESIGN of History can be found HERE.

Remember History is by DESIGN, Life is by Design, the future is by DESIGN (its called prophecy), You were by Design, your freedom of choice is by DESIGN.

So choose wisely, and take some time to study.

But this thread is hardly for you, its surely for visitors and readers rather than yourself. True scientists are not afraid of the convergence of facts and times, and resources and observations... it makes them concentrate their efforts until they figure it out.

You got to learn to be exact, folks, get it exactly right. Billions and trillions of years just isnt very mathematical and isn;t very scientific


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Message 26 of 85 (803998)
04-06-2017 10:51 AM
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04-06-2017 12:21 AM


Re: Something from davidjayjordan.com
Minn...exactly

Noah and his three sons, Ham, Shem and Japheth repopulated the Earth, each going a different direction... and all having went through the worldwide flood. Ham - black people
Shem- Yellow, Japeth white.

Easy to comprehend and harmonious and TRUE. Now you know...good point.... each of them telling the story in their cultures as they developed them via their offspring.

Were all brethren stemming from the same ancestry.. not different bangs, different couples banging, all from the same stock, and spreading outward..

Being fruitful and mutiplying. Thank the Lotrd for multiplication..Amen and awomen.


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Message 58 of 85 (804082)
04-07-2017 12:36 AM
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04-06-2017 7:32 PM


Re: FIRST ABSOLUTE EXACT PROOF
Settle down folks, count to ten ! Take a deep breath, and get mathematical rather than hysterical.

My links are exact and if you followed any of the different methods of deducing and finding out the exact year of the Great Flood, your scientific mind would be opened. Just use honesty as your quide.

Lets take the easiest one first to get you on the base line. It takes maybe Grade Six math, and I know for sure all of you out there have grade six math abilities.

The Lord said, Be fruitful and MULTIPLY, but all you have to do in this case is ADD. Just use simple addition from the exact years given in Genesis from one generation to the next. Come on folks you can do it, its not hard, dont fight it, be honest and do the math.

Go to Genesis write down the years to the birth of the next generation.

Adam to Seth 130 years from Creation
Seth to his son Enos 105 years

Start your column of addition,

And it turns into this exact dating of years

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/ForeFathersGraphic.html

How many years until the Flood ..... 1646 years. Thats your product RIGHT ? RIGHT ? The genesis or Biblical history says that exactly 1646 years after Creation there was a worldwide flood.

Now dont throw a fit and start writing the words, myth, lies etc etc...

Mathematically you cant deny the addition of these years. Its easy, its a basic, a cornerstone, its EXACT. Its not billions and trillions of years, changed with every new theory of a new theory of an old theory. Its a standard.

The number of years is 1646.

From there you will have to follow historical markers, to work backwards to find out the year of Creation. Oh my God (Jesus) that will take another skill called subtraction....... but you can do it if honest.

After you admit this simple addition, or run away screaming or gnashing some teeth. When you settle down, or if you simply keep a scientific open mind, I shall prove that this 2348 year, is further proven by the Great Prophecy Marker exactly, and by Time itself.

So just do the addition first, and be honest.

(PS..I know your lives are on the line HERE evolutionists... but have integrity and just do the math)

Afterwards, I shall have installment Proof NUMBER 2
and head that post accordingly.. Wait for it, do your homework for now and then youll be prepared for PROOF NUMBER 2

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OCS ( abbreviatioons for Onward Christian Soldiers also known as Onward Christian Scientists)

David

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Message 59 of 85 (804083)
04-07-2017 12:45 AM
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04-07-2017 12:36 AM


Re: FIRST ABSOLUTE EXACT PROOF
And after The SECOND Confirmation Proof

We shall go to the time, I mean seconds and weeks corelation again showing the absolute exactness of 2348 BC. This can be the
3rd Absolute Proof.....

And then maybe we shall put them all together and give the mathematical DESIGN PROOF of History in the thousand year periods of the Lord. Im sorry, as Hes actually called the Lord of Lords, as many of you presently must have your own lord or lords. Anyway can I suggest to you after all these various mathematical exact confirmations, that Jesus is the ********. I know many of you will hate this, but sorry, a truth is a truth. If you differ so be it, your choice.

Anyway, deal with ABSOLUTE PROOF ONE above...straight from Genesis.

ATBIJ (Abbreviations for all the best in Jesus)

DAVID

So theres more bullets in the chambers and arrows in the quill and absolute mathematical proofs to absolutely confirm the **** of *****.
(Figure out the ****'s and you will have His Name, start figuring out mysteries.. OCS)


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Message 63 of 85 (804126)
04-07-2017 10:02 AM
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04-07-2017 1:11 AM


Re: Evidence given, in more exact steps, as proposed
Admin, this is a mathematical enlightment that Coyote agreed with and to which you agreed with.

And as I clearly stated, I will be giving exact proofs STEP BY STEP to show the exact corelations and undeniable connections.

The TOPIC is mathematical proof of the timing and true place in History of the Great Worldwide Flood. This I am doing, unless the outcome is too devastating to some.

Research and teaching is precept upon precept, it isnt a shallow one minute post.


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The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 64 of 85 (804127)
04-07-2017 10:04 AM
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04-07-2017 10:02 AM


Re: Answering Questions before STEP 2
I am responsible to answer only my own research rather than others. Even though in this simple addition of numbers, numerous, and I do say numerous people throughout the ages have just added up the years and came to the exact same number. Its Grade Six math

The data given is in years, math teaches us that we can add up years together to get a TOTAL in years.

Herein we are not giving all the geological reasons for the flood, but the mathematical exact dating of the Flood, from different exact angles, all agreeing together exactly when the Flood occured.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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Message 65 of 85 (804130)
04-07-2017 10:14 AM
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04-07-2017 10:04 AM


Re:Step 1 Confirmed
The addition of years in Genesis from each generation to Noah and the Floods descent and ascent (waters from below) is CONFIRMED.

As no one above could or can differ with the exact number of years Genesis gives. The Math is correct, the total addition product is 1656 according to Biblical references exactly.

If it was wrong, the above math types would have stated such. But the MATH IS CORRECT.

We shall now go on to STEP 2, and relate this exactly the dating unit and units of time that the Designer created right from the BEGINNING in GENESIS. It deals with seconds and minutes and hours in a day, corelating to the spin of the Earth around its designed axis..... and the revolution of the Earth around the Sun. This being exact years, as we added in HERE.

So lets see if this 1656 years of Genesis has an exact match in time.

Hmmm it will start to make you think seconds and minutes and hours might not be random as evolutionists hoped for. But lets do the research and do the math and see if there is a connection and correlation.

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The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 67 of 85 (804134)
04-07-2017 10:22 AM
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04-07-2017 10:14 AM


Re: Re:Step 2 Corelating 1656 Years to Time Units
STEP 2

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/OneDayTilNoahsFlood.html

Simple Cut and Paste.... as why should I rewrite what is already exact... so check out the numbers of time, and creation and see if they add up.... no manipulation HERE no missing links or quesstimation of billions and trillions of supposed years, just down to Earth units of time....

Do the Math, dont be lazy, dont be afraid, be honest scientists..

""It's easily established that the world was created in 4004 B.C. This done simply by going through the geneologies dated years of
Genesis. ( SEE ForeFathers Graphic ) And this confirmed in my recent searches via http://www.greatdreams.com/432.htm Because
they also realised through simple subtraction that the Flood of Noah took place in 2348 B.C.

Therefore 4004-2348 gives 1656 years. And as mentioned on this afore mentioned site or by simply doing the math... there was
86,400 weeks from the 'Creation week' in days to the recreation of the Earth after the Flood. For do notice that Noah stepped out of
the Ark on the first day of the first Month exactly.

Genesis 8:13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year,
in the first month, (Nissan) the first day of the month, the waters were
dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark,
and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry

For at that time of the solar year, it was equal day and night as mentioned in Genesis 1. This meaning the month Nissan was at the
equinox in April 21st. Hence equal time of darkness first, and then the light, as Jewish days are from sundown to sunset. Time wise
this exactly means 43,200 seconds of darkness, before the light or Sun (SON) rises at the dawn of the first day for 43,200 seconds of
daylight. 12 hours times 60 minutes/hour times 60 seconds/minute= 43,200 seconds per daytime and the same for the night. This
meaning that as we know there are 86,400 seconds in a day.

Therefore the Lord literally gave the Earth and its inhabitants ONE Day of 86,400 seconds before He send and recreated its surfaces
via His worldwide flood. This with each second equaling a week of seven days. Yet this type of ratio-ing timing mechanism was and
is hardly a novel idea as the Lord also had a similiar timing mechanism for Daniel the prophet. And yet with Daniel the Lord made
one week represent 7 years. ( Consider Daniel 9.)
(end of segment.....)

IHMS

(IN HIs Mathematical Service)

David


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Message 75 of 85 (804216)
04-07-2017 11:53 PM
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Re: Re:Step 2 Corelating 1656 Years to Time Units
Tangle, Think Bro THINK.... have more than a ten second attention span.

Its now agreed that my math was correct !!! IE that Genesis Bible account with no missing links adds up exactly to 1656 years.

FIRST CONFIRMATION.

Now STEP 2, is easily confirmed mathematically that there was exactly 84, 400 weeks before Adam set forth on dry ground, this being exactly the number of seconds in a day. 86,400 seconds.

A creation week of exactly seven days, followed by the number of seconds in a day "weeks' until the Flood receeded, and there was recreation by Noah.

In a denying mind this means nothing, as it booggles the unthinking mind that a Creator could be so exact, and DESIGN HISTORY so exactly. At the very least it should make thinking people demand more proofs and want to search more mathematical so called coincidences of time in world HISTORY.

So again that is a given mathematically !!!

So the hint HERE is that seconds, are not a random measure, as the Creator spun the Earth around its axis, at a specific designed speed. Seconds can be trusted to be exact, just as it can be absolutely proven that distances corelate, and they also are not at random, neither of course is and are speeds.

Yikes the evolutionists who worship randomness and stright luck, have to run away screaming or deny deny deny, or stop discussions because their random worship falls apart. All things are designed, not just life, but inanimate life, as well as all the LAWS as well as distance, TIME (Prophecy and History) as well as SPEEDS (Lets discuss Light speed and why it is by design mathematically via the distances in the designed Solar System.

So lets move on to STEP 3 Confirmation before the Conclusion and wrap up even though there are a multiple of other connections I can give.

But already I and we are light years ahead of evolutionists because they have no math, no viable history just theory on theory.


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Message 76 of 85 (804217)
04-07-2017 11:58 PM
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04-07-2017 1:53 PM


Re: Re:Step 2 Corelating 1656 Years to Time Units
No as you should know there are 365.24 days in a year. And you have to add, the time of the Flood before Noah stepped out onto dry land, and repopulated the Earth, with His three sons and their wifes, starting the three major races.

But yet again we came from the original couple, first Adam and then Noah.

Please read Enoch's exact timing in the Book of Enoch.....

If you have a brain, a designed brain, and all braqins have been exactly the same since the BEGINNING, no one has a different brain DNA, I repeat we are brethren. We are not disjointed partially mutated half brothers and sisters..... as evolution teaches us. There is zero benefit in stduying luck and choice evolution. No principles , no math.

But lets get back to prophecy, MATH and another exact dating of the Great Flood in History


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Message 78 of 85 (804219)
04-08-2017 12:12 AM
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Re: Re:Step 2 Corelating 1656 Years to Time Units
Caff... 365.24 days per year divided by 7 days in a week = 52.177142 weeks in a solar year . We then times this by 1656 years and it means 86,405 days.

And we have confirmation, when considering Joshuas stopping the rotation for one day and other slight variables, such as the 370 days Noah was in the Ark before recreation started anew.

https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=ImDoWOKzFYPt8wfQq43ID...

So keep that in the back of your mathematical higher vertebrate skulls and ponder the next exact distances and exact corelations with time.

Are you ready ?


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Evolution is not science and is pure religion, forced upon the young to ensure their faith in luck and chance rather than mathematics and design.

The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 79 of 85 (804220)
04-08-2017 12:15 AM
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04-08-2017 12:12 AM


Re: Re:Step 2 Corelating 1656 Years to Time Units
Seeing we will be now studying the Great Pyramid Prophecy of the Lord, Caff.. I looked up references for you, for the days in a year according to Enoch who was the builder designer of the Great Pyramid of the Lord.

https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=ImDoWOKzFYPt8wfQq43ID...

Its not a conspiracy against you, they didn't fudge their numbers and work together with Moses, and translaters to try to get you out of your randomness stuppor. The figures match, so do the math, read about Enoch, and study the Great PYRAMID at Giza, designed by the Lord via Enoch.


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The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 80 of 85 (804221)
04-08-2017 12:30 AM
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Re: Re:Step 3 Confirming distance TIME to the Great Flood
Whoops, Joshua stopping the Sun was post Worldwide Flood, it was just after Moses death on Mount Nebo.

Got to get things right ?

Evolutionists try to within a billion years whereas us creationists try to be much much more exact


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The Lord created science and all things. Laws did not create themselves. Nothing happened by chance and accident.


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Message 83 of 85 (804226)
04-08-2017 1:05 AM
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Re: Evidence against the global flood being ignored
Coyote, your can have your non-evidence if you like. No problem thats your philosophical choice.

But you asked me to enlighten you about the TRUE History or Mathematical proofs about the Great Worldwide Flood of Noah. So as directed by the rules I am following the TOPIC, and enlightening any that do the math and do the research.

Its not about you, Coyote, dont feel left out and abandoned.

Lets stick to the TOPIC as we move forward... in the mathematical PROOFS of the Great Flood , the Great Destruction as noted by Darwin in the Beagle and the eminent Viekosky.

Think Math and exactness and laws and principles Coyote, me thinks you have dropped off too many cliffs chasing Roadrunners.


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