Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.

One could? Go on then. Give it a try.

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The vast majority of Western atheists believe that the theory of evolution is a fact and that evolution shaped human morality.

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"Provided the basis for" would be better than "shaped". And of course there are reasons to believe this.

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But this "science" places no compulsion on a human being to conform to any moral code and morality can be literally anything you want it to be.

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The first is not actually relevant to the truth of the idea (nor is it anything we should expect to be true) and the second is hardly true. If evolution places constraints on what human morality could be then it cannot be "literally anything you want it to be"

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For example, one could argue from "science" that a human being has no more worth than a bug,

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Which would show no understanding of the relevant science or morality.

AGREED, everything in evolutionary teaching states that everything just happened by chance and LUCK, and so logically speaking morals to them according to their teaching, just happened along by chance, and succeeded because of lucky selection.And as they dont tell you, nothing any individual learns EVER gets passed onto their offspring. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Nothing we learn, no moral we ever learn ever goes into our sexual DNA in our testes or ovaries. NEVER EVER, NEVER. Its impossible.Every person has choice and must choose to learn. All babies are the same at birth. Moral DNA does not mutate and did not mutate into morals and no moral DNA goes into a new zygote or embryo....NEVER.Morals do not evolve or mutate, Morals did not form via mutations. Its literal unsceintific insanity.Dont evolutionists know any science. Study Genetics, darn yas, get some intelligence.Learned knowledge does not get passed on... NEVERThe Lord either put it there in our DNA or it isn;t there.Jesus wins, evolution loses again

Meh, I accept evolution and I don't think that. Given the chemistry involved, some of the things-that-happen would be inevitable. Passed on genetically, sure, it doesn't happen directly. But selective pressures can act on the genes that code for the behaviors that cause parents to teach things to their offspring.Those offspring may be more inclined to teach learned behaviors to their offspring, and so on. I don't believe you, that's some made-up bullshit.

First, morality is simply a human concept and construct. There is no actual thing "morality", it is only a position agreed upon within a given segment of society.The God character in the Bible is certainly at best amoral, more often immoral and almost never portrayed as a moral character.But that is because those descriptions reflect the God created by the authors of those passages.But learning does get passed from people to people and from generation to generation. It is passed on by the elders teaching and instructing the youth and then modified by those youths as they grow, experience and hopefully mature. In the beginning it was passed on by oral history and by demonstration, by example. Today it can also be passed on through written and video communication; but the best, most effective means remains by example.

Morals are a social construct. They 'evolve' as societies advance. This is very evident by simply looking at your own bible and seeing things within its pages that we would consider to be immoral in modern times. Slavery. Selling your daughter to the highest bidder. That sort of thing. I bet most 'evolutionists' understand grammar and spelling better than you do. And have you 'studied' genetics? And I don't mean read a book. Do you have a degree in biological sciences specializing in genetics?

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Innate Behavior

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Behaviors that are closely controlled by genes with little or no environmental influence are called innate behaviors. These are behaviors that occur naturally in all members of a species whenever they are exposed to a certain stimulus. Innate behaviors do not have to be learned or practiced. They are also called instinctive behaviors. An instinct is the ability of an animal to perform a behavior the first time it is exposed to the proper stimulus. For example, a dog will drool the first timeand every timeit is exposed to food.

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Innate Behavior ( Read ) | Biology | CK-12 FoundationAnd that is from a basic ck12 class. Did you not even get that far in school? Based on the aforementioned, it actually appears as though evolution is taking you to school (literally and figuratively) and the individual peddling creationist nonsense is making a fool of themselves.

Whom do you hope to deceive by drooling out this stupid lie? Whom do you hope to deceive by drooling out this stupid lie?

Meh, I accept evolution and I don't think that. Given the chemistry involved, some of the things-that-happen would be inevitable.(Given enough time, all things are possible if the dice are shaken long enough, or the gambling table is selective enough).Passed on genetically, sure, it doesn't happen directly. But selective pressures can act on the genes that code for the behaviors that cause parents to teach things to their offspring.(Agreed, and confirmed genes do not pass on learned behaviour !!!!!!!!!!!!! So evolutionists say the selection process chooses the best mistakes that somehow magically have combined for no reason at all and totally at random, and the selection or nature takes over and magically picks out a trait, that hasn;t killed the species but somehow just blends in and makes it better perfectly by luck and chance.. No selection by so called Mother Nature is not your Saviour and Creator.)Those offspring may be more inclined to teach learned behaviors to their offspring, and so on.(No absolutely not, more inclined is not genetic.... its double speak. Learned behaviour has to be learned. Babies are not born with it unless it was given as instinct, adaptions, or the other words biologists make up to describe the traits of a KIND' Learned behaviour is not passed on, the next generation is not inclined, It is not inevitable. Thats all double speak of evolutionists)I don't believe you, that's some made-up bullshit.(Then show where moral DNA gets passed along to the next generation, prove this quote of mine is wrong..Every person has choice and must choose to learn. All babies are the same at birth. Moral DNA does not mutate and did not mutate into morals and no moral DNA goes into a new zygote or embryo....
NEVER.)Jesus wins, evolutionists lose.But wait lets answer the original question--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, instincts are a thing. lol don't be silly, nobody says that nonsense. The behavior to teach more to your offspring could be inherited. That's not how it works - you're not correct by default until someone proves you wrong.You wrote some nonsensical bullshit and I don't believe it. I have no reason to "prove you wrong".Prove yourself right. That might be the stupidest thing I've read in a while.

Definitely, to answer the OPS original post, of course ATHIESTS can have morals and be moral. To say otherwise is completely erroneous.If morality is deemed love, concern, respect, actual caring actions and a loving lifestyle, then absolutely an athiest can have godly characteristics, as God is love. Athiests can have morals, even if they reject God.How is it that possible because some athiests might have hated church people and self righteous people and religious people who worship themselves and their damnable unloving arrogant so called superiority, and decided that from these so called godly people, God HIMSELF must be immoral and unloving. Hence some atheists can go about trying to establish a lifestyle and life that works based on love, and concern for others.They may reject the church God, even while following the tenets and lifestyle of the Lord Himself and be moral.Never condescend to atheists, some of them may not be as bitter and mean as you might think they must become. Because some may have morals and have their lives based on LOVE, for God is LOVE, and Jesus is LOVE.Romans 2, I believe states it and confirms this, and the whole bible eludes to this principle.Morals takes decision making and CHOICE.Evolutionists can never win but some athiests can see the light of LOVE, and be rewarded by the God of LOVE.Mystery solved, Love wins, Jesus wins

Of course not. Why would it? Aerodynamics doesn't impose any morality on us either. No. Morality is whatever society wants it to be, whatever works to help us live together in relative harmony.

Which I suppose makes sense. The other side wants morality to be something God either dictates or persuades...which even if true turns out to be on us to carry out.In order for morals to be rational, they must be something we actually do.Can anyone think of morals that society intrinsically knows to be true yet routinely ignores or rejects?

You are an ok poster, DJ. Your biggest weakness seems to be a bit of an ego...but many of we Christians rationalize it away by claiming that God gave us wisdom and that we are proud "in" Him. . Anyway im glad you got unsuspended and hope that you can curtail the ongoing desire to teach us anything.....it will come naturally with time...it is the posters character that either persuades or repels us.

I don't care if they're an atheist or not, I wish somebody would help me find some morels.Edited by New Cat's Eye, : No reason given.

They should be showing up now down there in your neck of the woods. Be a bit before we see them up north here.