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Pressie
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Message 136 of 1352 (804684)
04-12-2017 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by Davidjay
04-12-2017 1:43 AM


davidjay writes:
No offense, but most evolutionists according to their mindset would have to say that their is no mathematics and design to the Great Pyramid of Enoch. I differ, you would to if you do the research.
Really? Do they?
Maybe you have a misconception of what evolutionists do. Let's clear it up for you. Evolutionists study biology, not pyramids.
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Message 137 of 1352 (804699)
04-12-2017 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by Pressie
04-12-2017 7:26 AM


True scientists apply learned laws in all fields, not so bright evolutionists believe in luck and chance, in their isolated field of belief called biology... (SEE NEW PROPOSED THREAD called Did Laws evevolve ?)
The evolutionist mindset is no design, the GREAT PYRAMID definitely destroys that mindset, as it shows design of geography, time, history, and the Flood and all significant events in world history.
All things are connected, nothing is isolated, all things are part of the Law of Everything sometimes called the TOE, why because the Good Loving Lord created all things at once and harmoniously put them all together at once.
Biology and evolution are not isolated un-attached fields.
But thanks for trying to figure it out Pressie, it shows youre thinking or trying to think. We shall see.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 138 of 1352 (804700)
04-12-2017 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Davidjay
04-12-2017 11:35 AM


Aren't you just preaching?
GTFO with that crap.

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Message 139 of 1352 (804718)
04-12-2017 4:34 PM
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04-12-2017 1:43 AM


So to understand you will have to again study, all of the below to connect up your mind and all areas.... of alignment.
No more aimlessly clicking through links on our website. Tell us what you have to say here.

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Message 140 of 1352 (804722)
04-12-2017 4:44 PM
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04-12-2017 4:34 PM


David Jay's idea of a mathematical proof is to claim that he added up some numbers and got a particular result (which is wrong). Then he claims that the addition is correct because nobody corrected him - even though someone did - and that the answer is a different number.
in the unlikely event that he has a genuine degree it obviously wasn't in any numerate discipline.
Just pathetic.

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Message 141 of 1352 (804735)
04-12-2017 10:51 PM
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04-12-2017 4:44 PM


Even most people with a degree in History can add.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 142 of 1352 (804740)
04-13-2017 12:38 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by New Cat's Eye
04-12-2017 11:40 AM


Exact Historical Landmarks and Prophecies
Cats Eye, add to the discussion without all your crap comments.
If you dont know history thats your problem. If you have numerous billion years of missing links and eras. Again thats your problem.
Get your crap together, and explain your history, in solid form.
And please no one liners, it shows your lack of depth ....
Start your luck and chance thesis off, with maybe your summation....that all human history is by luck and chance and there has never been and never will be any rhyme or reason or design to history. Suggest there is NO DIRECTION OF TIME, and its all just hit and miss MISTAKES of man never learning anything.
Sum up your thesis, rather than making crappy comments against others and me.
Now back to the true dating of the Great Flood, the catacylsms that Darwin so well noted and documented.
Historical Markers throughout history with their design and mathematics, included... direct exact prophecy...
4004 B.C. Creation in Six Days - Creation not Evolution
Adam and Eve - ForeFathers Lineage Start
6,000 Years of World History
-2348 B.C. Worldwide Flood - Descent of Prophetic Giza Passageway
-1004 B.C. Opening of Solomon's Temple - 1,000 Year Division Prophecy
--516 B.C. End of Babylon Captivity - 70 Year Prophecy Jeremiah Daniel
---- 4 B.C. Jesus Birth - Christ Triangle in Giza
---29 A.D. Jesus, the MESSIAH'S Death - Daniel 70 Week Prophecy
--341 A.D. Council of Antioch - History Design
-1588 A.D. Spanish Armada Defeated - British Empire Prophecy
Moses 40 Years - Ezekiel 390 Years
-1614 A.D. King James Publication of Bible - Great Step, Leap of Faith
-1897 A.D. Noah's Prophecy til End Time Flood
-1947 A.D. Birth of New Nation End Time Leader - Timeline of End
Start of 70 Years of Moses and David - Daniel and Jeremiah
-1967 A.D. Jesus Revolution - Start of End Time Children of God
-1997 A.D. End of 6,000 Years - Time of Jacobs Trouble - Additional 21 Years

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 143 of 1352 (804741)
04-13-2017 12:42 AM


No PaulK, I just started you off with an easy mathematical summation of the exact years as mentioned by the Creators BOOK. Following it with an astonishing confirmation of the timing of the Great Flood, then a further absolutely amazing and specific distance equals time prophecy from the Great Pyramid.. and above more absolutely cohesive and confirming years, that point to patterns, and ratios, exactly towards the Climax and exciting end of the BEGINNING.
Do some math PaulK, start with addition and then progress to multiplication, learn ratios and PHI, laws and equations, and your head will feel better, rather than trustying in luck and chance to straighten things out upstairs.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
.

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Message 144 of 1352 (804744)
04-13-2017 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Davidjay
04-13-2017 12:42 AM


quote:
No PaulK, I just started you off with an easy mathematical summation of the exact years as mentioned by the Creators BOOK.
I am sorry that you object to me telling the truth. Let me remind you:
Message 58
How many years until the Flood ..... 1646 years. Thats your product RIGHT ? RIGHT ? The genesis or Biblical history says that exactly 1646 years after Creation there was a worldwide flood.
Now dont throw a fit and start writing the words, myth, lies etc etc...
Mathematically you cant deny the addition of these years. Its easy, its a basic, a cornerstone, its EXACT. Its not billions and trillions of years, changed with every new theory of a new theory of an old theory. Its a standard.
The number of years is 1646.
So let us note you originally claimed that the total was 1646 - stating that number 3 times.
In Message 61 I corrected you since you had not only added up the numbers incorrectly, you had ignored the rounding errors (which make it impossible to come up with an exact result)
In Message 65 you stated:
As no one above could or can differ with the exact number of years Genesis gives. The Math is correct, the total addition product is 1656 according to Biblical references exactly.
If it was wrong, the above math types would have stated such. But the MATH IS CORRECT.
Just as I said - you declared that the total was a different number - 1656 instead of 1646 and denied the existence of the correction.

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Message 145 of 1352 (804808)
04-13-2017 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Davidjay
04-13-2017 12:38 AM


Re: Exact Historical Landmarks and Prophecies
Cats Eye, add to the discussion without all your crap comments.
If you dont know history thats your problem. If you have numerous billion years of missing links and eras. Again thats your problem.
Get your crap together, and explain your history, in solid form.
And please no one liners, it shows your lack of depth ....
Start your luck and chance thesis off, with maybe your summation....that all human history is by luck and chance and there has never been and never will be any rhyme or reason or design to history. Suggest there is NO DIRECTION OF TIME, and its all just hit and miss MISTAKES of man never learning anything.
Sum up your thesis, rather than making crappy comments against others and me.
Sure, my thesis is simple: Science works.
Now back to the true dating of the Great Flood, the catacylsms that Darwin so well noted and documented.
We know without a doubt, as a scientific fact, that the entire planet has never been flooded since humans have existed.
Whatever calculations you come up with that conflicts with that fact must be incorrect.

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Message 146 of 1352 (804826)
04-13-2017 10:41 AM
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04-13-2017 12:42 AM


Following it with an astonishing confirmation of the timing of the Great Flood...
Which mountains of evidence show never happened, let alone at the "exact" date you specify.
Your belief and your numbers mean nothing against the real-world evidence disproving the flood.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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Message 147 of 1352 (804950)
04-14-2017 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Pressie
04-12-2017 7:26 AM


Agreed, evolutionists ONLY study their theory
Yes, Pressie, again I agree with you, evolutionists narrow their field of study to living things, and not to the origins of life or the laws of the Universe. AGREED.
They dont extrapolate their LUCK theory to other scientific fields,
They stick to whatever is alive already and then theorise from there.
They dont study math or time progression or history (except for millions and billions of years theology).
They dont have a TOE, they dont have consistency, their theory of luck and chance doesn;t help in any other field to solve anything. AGREED.
A better scientific approach is seeing all the forest instead of one pet tree. Putting all things together cohesively and figuring out all of life and all of science.
They settle in the comfort of forced indocrination in the field of biology or living organisms.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
.

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Diomedes
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Message 148 of 1352 (804956)
04-14-2017 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Davidjay
04-14-2017 12:07 PM


Re: Agreed, evolutionists ONLY study their theory
Yes, Pressie, again I agree with you, evolutionists narrow their field of study to living things, and not to the origins of life or the laws of the Universe. AGREED.
An over-generalization, but at least you are starting to pick things up.
They dont extrapolate their LUCK theory to other scientific fields,
They stick to whatever is alive already and then theorise from there.
Not exactly true. The fossil record is 'not alive'. But it is studied by paleontologists.
By the way, there is no such thing as an 'evolutionist'. It isn't a field of study, just a made up term by you in order to create pathetic strawman arguments.
They dont study math or time progression or history (except for millions and billions of years theology).
Actually, most individuals studying evolutionary biology have had university level math as part of their degree.
And what does 'except for millions and billions of years of theology' mean? Are you finally agreeing that the Earth and universe are billions of years old? Glad you are finally picking that up as well.
They dont have a TOE, they dont have consistency, their theory of luck and chance doesn;t help in any other field to solve anything. AGREED.
Nope. As was already conveyed to you by both myself and Tangle. Guess you are still trying to figure that one out.
A better scientific approach is seeing all the forest instead of one pet tree. Putting all things together cohesively and figuring out all of life and all of science.
That is what science does. It just has different fields of study for specializations depending on the focus area. Just because I studied electrical engineering (which I did) doesn't mean the curriculum was invalid because I didn't study as much chemical engineering. You would understand these things if you went to college, but judging by your posts, I am guessing you even completing a GED is about the limits of your abilities.
They settle in the comfort of forced indocrination in the field of biology or living organisms.
Maybe they should spend more time in churches. No forced 'indoctrination' there. Please learn to spell by the way; browsers have built in spell and grammar checks. Easy to use. And it doesn't do your arguments much justice when your posts look like they come from a remedial 3rd grade basic english class.
I think it's time for another facepalm:

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Message 149 of 1352 (804959)
04-14-2017 2:00 PM
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04-14-2017 12:07 PM


Re: Agreed, evolutionists ONLY study their theory
Yes, Pressie, again I agree with you, evolutionists narrow their field of study to living things, and not to the origins of life or the laws of the Universe. AGREED.
They dont extrapolate their LUCK theory to other scientific fields,
They stick to whatever is alive already and then theorise from there.
They dont study math or time progression or history (except for millions and billions of years theology).
They dont have a TOE, they dont have consistency, their theory of luck and chance doesn;t help in any other field to solve anything. AGREED.
A better scientific approach is seeing all the forest instead of one pet tree. Putting all things together cohesively and figuring out all of life and all of science.
They settle in the comfort of forced indocrination in the field of biology or living organisms.
Get a grip!
Rather than "evolutionists" you should be talking about paleontologists, biologists, zoologists, geologists, geneticists, and a host of other scientific specialties.
These fields all require specialized training, many of them involving mathematics or statistics.
It is only creationists who lump all the fields they don't like together as "evolutionists."
What a joke!

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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Message 150 of 1352 (805003)
04-14-2017 11:54 PM
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04-14-2017 1:30 PM


Re: Agreed, evolutionists ONLY study their theory
AGREED, in university, evolutionists have to study math, its very secular math but it is a type of math. But there is NO CONNECTION between math and evolutionary biology. Evolutionists are absolutely petrified by math because they have none and have no laws, and violate laws, and have no idea where life came from or where laws came from.
Evolution is not a science just a random theory that hopes for the elusive non existant beneficial mutation, that their supposed new hero, selects to carry on the mistake or misread or explosive combination taht somehow in evolutionary minds jast happens to make the animal more successful. And if that isnt wild enough, in whole systems like heart, lungs, nervous system etc...... evolutionists seem to think lucky mutations just hang around in a body until needed and that final mutation makes the organism better and more viable.
Now thats pure idiocracy.
But at least as liberal arts students and graduates of literature and science fiction, they can usually spell right. Why research papers demand correct spelling, not correct thoughts and laws and consistency.
Jesus wins, evolution loses.
Beneficial Mutations are a pipe dream, thought up by the desperate.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
.

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