Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

Right, tell that to Dylan Roof's victims.

Hi, Faith. Islam isn't so popular. What is popular is protecting people's right to their beliefs and protecting them from being punished for something other people are doing.

He's two now (where does the time go?).I can't seem to figure out how to up load a pic of the little tyke, though

Well, it's about time the Constitution of the USA was updated to protect the citizens it was meant to protect.

Even if you could screen out the bad ones, good ones - or thier children - can become radicalised and dangerous. So wherever you find Muslims, you will eventually find killers.

To be fair, wherever you find people, you'll find killers.

Ok, well I'll amend that to killers who kill in the name of Islam.

It's the ideology of Islam that preaches the killing of nonMuslims that is the reason they kill, not anything about what kind of people they are.

It's Islam itself that is inspiring the killings. A "right to their beliefs" when those beliefs prescribe killing nonMuslims is not a right granted by the Constitution. Those who are protecting them are putting the whole nation at risk -- putting all Europe at risk too. It's all these liberal politically correct do-gooders who have the ultimate responsibility for everyone murdered by Islamists. Islam isn't partial to liberals; liberals are going to die too. It's hard to believe this sort of suicidal insanity is going on.

Fair enough.But remember that that means you're ignoring all of the non Muslim killers out there.

No, it's the people who do the murders who are responsible for the murder: not people disagree with you.

Not so. Christianity used to be choc full or killers and today has more that it's fair share of child molestation enthusiasts but nowadays the faith attracts a less blood thirsty (though you still can't trust some of them with children) crowd.I don't think God has changed: but the people who flock to his banner have. Chances are Islam is going to become nice Islam over time the same way Christianity became nice Christianity over time.As your Mr Trump says, bad people doing bad things is bad.Bigly.

First you are confusing the Roman Catholic church with Christianity. I know every time I say this I'm met with angry incredulity but the evidence is there. Over the centuries after the papacy was established in 606 AD they just kept accumulating pagan superstitions and antichristian beliefs and practices and acquired a zeal for worldly power which is NOT Christian. The average Catholic may be a Christian nevertheless, but the institution is anything but. The pope had kings intimidated for centuries. And they murdered all "heretics" just as Islam does -- most of them early Protestants or Bible believers by the way, which most unbelievers don't know. (In fact Reformation theologians treated the Pope as one leg of the Antichrist and Islam as the other. Islam arose around the same time the Bishop of Rome was given universal jurisdiction over the church by the Byzantine emperior. Islam immediately started conquering people by the sword starting with the Middle East which was at that time largely Christian, and spreading through Europe, murdering as they went. It took the Pope a while to catch up but the Inquisition killed something like 67 million over its 600 year reign. I think it's getting worse in our time with the RCC's molestations and various sins showing up in "evangelical" contexts too. But there are still true Christian churches, and I assume there are true Christians as well in the Roman Church.But the essential difference between Christianity and Islam is that the Bible orders us to be meek, while the "holy books" of Islam order them to kill the infidel. When they murder they are obeying Allah, when Christians murderl they are disobeying Jehovah/Jesus. This is just wrong. Both religions are religions of a book or holy writings. Ours forbids us from murder, theirs is all over the map saying different things at different times but one thing they definitely do say is Kill the Infidel.The books haven't changed. People may change but as long as the books say what they say they are always there when someone converts one way or the other and starts to obey them. Christians learn we are not to harm, Muslims learn they are to kill the infidel.The RCC refused the Bible to the laity and most of their priests didn't bother to read it either.; That is why they could have degenerated as much as they did. The Protestant Reformation was above all a recovery of the Bible as our authority.People need to understand this but it seems impossible to get it across. It's not about Muslims as people. Many of them may not know a lot about their religion, same as many Christians, but the point is the religion is always there in their books to turn them from harmless to murderers. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

And it was Judaism itself that inspired Irgun killings. That doesn't mean that Judaism is a religion that is intrinsically, immutably prone to creating violence. Edited by Genomicus, : No reason given.

I doubt it was Judaism that justified the Irgun. But even if it did through some misapplication of the text, it was a defensive operation and had no aim of converting anyone to Judaism, and the fact remains that Islam IS "a religion that is intrinsically, immutably prone to creating violence."Soon after its conception it took off "converting" people by the sword, murdering and murdering and murdering. They were finally pushed back by European resistance so since then they've been enslaving, subjugating and murdering easier prey in other parts of the world. But they are now moving into the West where as soon as they have the numbers and the power it will begin again. (It's already begun by individuals here and there of course. Shouldn't be long before there are many others.) Because that's what their books say. They are out to conquer the world. Judaism isn't, neither is Christianity nor any other religion. Oh, except the RCC which puts their own traditions above the Bible.There are of course many Muslims who don't know this about their religion or its history or its aim to conquer the world. Time for all to wake up.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.