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ringo
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Message 826 of 993 (806184)
04-23-2017 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 798 by Larni
04-22-2017 6:53 PM


Re: wondering
Larni writes:
He's two now (where does the time go?).
I can't seem to figure out how to up load a pic of the little tyke, though
In a few months he'll be able to show you how.

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Son Goku
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Message 827 of 993 (806192)
04-23-2017 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 825 by Chiroptera
04-23-2017 1:25 PM


What!!!
Chiroptera you're back! Welcome back!

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Chiroptera
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Message 828 of 993 (806194)
04-23-2017 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 827 by Son Goku
04-23-2017 4:41 PM


Re: What!!!
Thanks! But it's only because I'm avoiding catching up on grading!

I believe in a relatively equal society, supported by institutions that limit extremes of wealth and poverty. I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. -- Paul Krugman

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
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Message 829 of 993 (806198)
04-23-2017 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 826 by ringo
04-23-2017 2:16 PM


Re: wondering
My understanding is that I would have to upload an image to the Inter Nets and like to the URL.
Will a The Face Books pic do?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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NoNukes
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Message 830 of 993 (806201)
04-23-2017 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 799 by Dredge
04-23-2017 1:33 AM


Well, it's about time the Constitution of the USA was updated to protect the citizens it was meant to protect.
Lol! Nobody "hates America" in quite the way a theocrat does.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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Stile
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Posts: 4295
From: Ontario, Canada
Joined: 12-02-2004


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Message 831 of 993 (806276)
04-24-2017 8:27 AM
Reply to: Message 829 by Larni
04-23-2017 5:28 PM


Re: wondering
Larni writes:
My understanding is that I would have to upload an image to the Inter Nets and like to the URL.
Will a The Face Books pic do?
Yes, basically.
A Facebook pic might work.
Best option, though, is to create an account (yes, another one...) at a place like www.imgur.com
Hosting pictures for linking them at other sites is specifically what imgur.com is for.
It's built for it, and it will walk you through the steps and provide you with text you can copy/paste pretty much anywhere in order to link to your pictures.
Just remember that if you ever remove the picture from that site, your link (wherever it is) will be "broken" (go nowhere).
Generally, after a few weeks or months, this is 'as expected' by most web-surfers.
Good luck!

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Dredge
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Message 832 of 993 (806485)
04-26-2017 1:01 AM
Reply to: Message 807 by Larni
04-23-2017 3:59 AM


Re: wondering
There is nothing in the Bible that commands infidels be put to death as a matter of course. The same can't be said of the Koran; and therein lies the murderous difference. (According to therelgionofpeace.com, the Koran contains 109 verse "that call Muslims to war with unbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.")
Moderate Muslims may not be interested in following their book to the letter in this respect, but there are plenty of non-moderate Muslims these days who are. The intolerant killers are the Muslims who take their book seriously - the true believers.
Every nation should reserve the right to outlaw any dangerous cult.
Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

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Chiroptera
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Message 833 of 993 (809752)
05-20-2017 9:06 PM


Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
Just saw this article at thenation.com and I thought I'd post it here. With all the Russia junk going on, small but important actions are slipping by under the radar.
 The Airport Lawyers Who Stood Up to Trump Are Under Attack
Summary: The Department of Justice is trying to use a legal technicality to prevent nonprofit organizations from providing legal representation to immigrants in deportation hearings.

Freedom is merely privilege extended, unless enjoyed by one and all. — Billy Bragg

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Faith 
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From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 834 of 993 (809761)
05-20-2017 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 833 by Chiroptera
05-20-2017 9:06 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
This is not about immigration, this is about illegal entry into the country. Why can't the Left understand something so simple?

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PaulK
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Message 835 of 993 (809778)
05-21-2017 1:09 AM
Reply to: Message 834 by Faith
05-20-2017 9:50 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
This story is about providing legal representation to those accused of illegal entry. Or, more likely, about revenge on a non-profit that dared to oppose the government by entirely legal means.
Simply screaming about illegal immigration - as if it were a justification for tyranny - is just an attempt to obscure what is going on.

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Faith 
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From: Nevada, USA
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Message 836 of 993 (809780)
05-21-2017 2:36 AM
Reply to: Message 835 by PaulK
05-21-2017 1:09 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
Oh but of course. Now enforcing the law is tyranny. But what else could it be in leftistspeak.

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PaulK
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Message 837 of 993 (809781)
05-21-2017 2:42 AM
Reply to: Message 836 by Faith
05-21-2017 2:36 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
It's not about enforcing the law. It's about denying legal representation to those accused of being in the country illegally. Or, more likely, an act of petty revenge.
Are you really going to claim that legal representation of the accused is an impediment to justice ?

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NoNukes
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Message 838 of 993 (809784)
05-21-2017 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 837 by PaulK
05-21-2017 2:42 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
Are you really going to claim that legal representation of the accused is an impediment to justice ?
Paul, I have to assume that this question is rhetorical.
It is the stated position of Faith and marc9000 that folks accused of illegal immigration do not have any constitutional rights or any other right to resist immediate expulsion from this country. If that is your position then, of course, any assistance whatsoever including those provided by law are impediments to kicking the accused the f out of the country.
The purpose of the law is to protect immigrants from shysters. That is not the government's purpose here. They are attacking some of the most proficient organizations around to prevent them from providing pro-bono assistance. Surely there is no ripoff going on here. Just a bunch of wingnuts yelling "Get out".
I'm a patent attorney, but if I spoke some Spanish, I might consider taking on immigration law based solely on this travesty.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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PaulK
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Message 839 of 993 (809785)
05-21-2017 5:05 AM
Reply to: Message 838 by NoNukes
05-21-2017 4:41 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
I'd like to see them admit to what they are really saying. I would like to seem them say that anyone accused of being an illegal immigrant - even if it is untrue - loses all rights. I would like to hear them admit that - far from enforcing the law - this is about getting the outcome they want - the law be damned.
I would like them to be honest and admit that their position is unAmerican and unChristian.
Of course they won't. But we can at least make it clear that we can see what they really want through the gaping holes in the thin veil that they try to hold up.

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NoNukes
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Message 840 of 993 (809786)
05-21-2017 5:32 AM
Reply to: Message 839 by PaulK
05-21-2017 5:05 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
I would like to seem them say that anyone accused of being an illegal immigrant - even if it is untrue - loses all rights.
I think statements like this Message 81 are close enough:
Faith writes:
But "real Constitutional rights" belong ONLY to the citizens of the United States. What a bizarre idea that they are to be extended to foreigners. This kind of thinking is promoted by globalists and is designed to destroy national sovereignty
Faith writes:
The Constitution does not apply to noncitizens of America. I can hardly believe anyone would make such a claim.
Not sure what is left to say...
PaulK writes:
I would like them to be honest and admit that their position is unAmerican and unChristian.
Yeah, I get that...
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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