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Davidjay 
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Message 166 of 404 (806684)
04-27-2017 10:06 AM
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04-27-2017 3:00 AM


Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
Calling someone a liar, shows you have frustration rather than facts. Its apparrent your theory is lacking and you have no arrows in your quiver, or bullets in your evolutionary bangs.

You can say a theory is a lie, but on most discussion boards they suggest or demand that the discussion be objective rather than subjective and personal where you call your opponent a liar.

Primates are supposedly a branch, get it together evolutionists and enough of your excuses and double speak. Evolution is about branching, a dividing of a species into other species, or races into other races. You must be consistent if you are to adopt such a wierd theory and it must be CONSISTENT.

Evolutionists are not consistent and hide behind semantics until caught. They have been caught again.


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Message 167 of 404 (806689)
04-27-2017 10:26 AM
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04-27-2017 10:06 AM


Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
Davidjay writes:

Calling someone a liar, shows you have frustration rather than facts.

Well you got the frustration bit right at least.

If you say this after repeatedly being told that it's false you are indeed a liar. And a fucking big one at that.

Evolutionists think they come from monkeys and their grandparents are chimps, and their cousins are primates and their god is Evolution, I differ.

This is a lie.

I'm almost sorry that there is no god, 'cos if there was, you'd be going down.


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Message 168 of 404 (806698)
04-27-2017 10:40 AM
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04-26-2017 10:49 PM


Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
Davidjay writes:

Evolutionists think they come from monkeys and their grandparents are chimps, and their cousins are primates and their god is Evolution, I differ.

How is it racist when someone claims that all humans evolved from a common ancestor shared with other primates? I don't understand how this is racism. All humans evolved earlier primates, so how does that separate one group of humans from another?

Also, I know of no evolutionist whose God is evolution. Could you explain that one?

But as a Christian, I must defend the right of you to have choice, and follow any heritage you choose. Please feel free to visit the zoos as much as you like to reconnect with your close relatives.

We are following the evidence. It isn't a choice.


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Message 169 of 404 (806714)
04-27-2017 11:07 AM
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Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
Taq writes:

How is it racist when someone claims that all humans evolved from a common ancestor shared with other primates? I don't understand how this is racism. All humans evolved earlier primates, so how does that separate one group of humans from another?

Especially since the different "races" of human didn't evolve separately as different branches. Humans have always been a single interbreeding population.

Edited by Chiroptera, : Damn autocorrect!


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Message 170 of 404 (806725)
04-27-2017 11:17 AM
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04-27-2017 11:07 AM


Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
Especially since the different "races" of human didn't evolve separately as different branches. Humans have always been a single interviewing population.

Correct.

When you actually study human races, rather than numerology and other failed doctrines, you find that there are no "pure" races. Rather there are a dozen or so "classical" racial traits (e.g., skin color, hair form) and a larger number of non-classical traits (blood types, fingerprint patterns). Most of these vary somewhat independently from one another and are found in clines.

A good discussion is here:

http://anthro.palomar.edu/vary/vary_3.htm

And the conclusion of that disussion:

These patterns of ABO, Rh, and Diego blood type distributions are not similar to those for skin color or other so-called "racial" traits. The implication is that the specific causes responsible for the distribution of human blood types have been different than those for other traits that have been commonly employed to categorize people into "races." Since it would be possible to divide up humanity into radically different groupings using blood typing instead of other genetically inherited traits such as skin color, we have more conclusive evidence that the commonly used typological model for understanding human variation is scientifically unsound.

The more we study the precise details of human variation, the more we understand how complex are the patterns. They cannot be easily summarized or understood. Yet, this hard-earned scientific knowledge is generally ignored in most countries because of more demanding social and political concerns. As a result, discrimination based on presumed "racial" groups still continues. It is important to keep in mind that this "racial" classification often has more to do with cultural and historical distinctions than it does with biology. In a very real sense, "race" is a distinction that is created by culture not biology.


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Message 171 of 404 (806762)
04-27-2017 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Davidjay
04-27-2017 10:06 AM


Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
Evolution is about branching, a dividing of a species into other species,
Sure it also says all life is related.
or races into other races.
Nope there is no such thing as a race clacification, its a made up non scientific term, and evolution states that if two members can produce a healthy fertile offspring they are considered the SAME SPECIES so blacks, whites, hispanics, chinese, eskimose, lactoese intolernats, lactose tollerants, blonds, brrown hairs, redhairs, black hairs, tall people, short people, brown eyed, green eyed, blue eyed .... are all the same species. Homo sapiens Sapiens.

Just because a species branches out does not mean its more evolved, it could be the one that goes extinct and the "original" branch goes on evolving. And yes that is the only thing that counts to evolution as being more evolved procreation. Currently the trend is the less inteligent and less educated people are the more children they have, so we are heading for a future portrayed in idiocracy. So as fare as evolution is concerned right now inteligent and educated people are less evolved.


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Message 172 of 404 (806796)
04-28-2017 7:45 AM
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04-27-2017 1:49 PM


Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
frako writes:

So as far as evolution is concerned right now intelligent and educated people are less evolved.

Isn't this really measuring reproductive success, not degree of evolution? I wonder if you take infant mortality into account whether you get a different answer.

Also, the criteria of intelligence and education are perhaps not being applied accurately. It might take more intelligence and wits and (informal) education to survive and reproduce in a crowded slum than in a suburban conclave.

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Message 173 of 404 (806797)
04-28-2017 7:51 AM
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Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
frako writes:

Currently the trend is the less inteligent and less educated people are the more children they have, so we are heading for a future portrayed in idiocracy.

It's pretty controversial how much of what we call "intelligence" is due to inheritable characteristics as opposed to social factors.

It may well be that our society is "evolving" toward an idiocracy -- certainly the US appears headed down that path! -- but I suspect that the forces are more social and cultural than biological.


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Message 174 of 404 (806800)
04-28-2017 8:37 AM
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04-28-2017 7:45 AM


Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
Isn't this really measuring reproductive success,

Well yea isnt that how species evolve the individuals that reproduce more pass on more of their traits.

t might take more intelligence and wits and (informal) education to survive and reproduce in a crowded slum than in a suburban conclave.

Not so much wits as being big tough and mean. I would assume.


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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Message 175 of 404 (806801)
04-28-2017 8:38 AM
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Re: .Evolutionists say one living thing did NOT evolve from another
but I suspect that the forces are more social and cultural than biological.

Dosent matter its still aa selective pressure.

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Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

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Message 176 of 404 (806807)
04-28-2017 9:02 AM
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04-27-2017 1:49 PM


education is memes not intelligence
... Currently the trend is the less inteligent and less educated people are the more children they have, so we are heading for a future portrayed in idiocracy. So as fare as evolution is concerned right now inteligent and educated people are less evolved.

but isn't education the dissemination of memes? Without education the brain is just as intelligent, it just doesn't have the memes to apply to different situations.

To my mind all living things are equally evolved -- they have arrived at this time and place after over 3.5 billion years of evolution.

And as far as racism goes, it is only racist if you claim one is better than another. Being different is not racist.

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Message 177 of 404 (806818)
04-28-2017 9:36 AM
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04-27-2017 11:07 AM


Re: .Another evolutionary LIE.... humans alone interbreed only among themselves
Chir, again trying to get away from the truth that evolution is a branching, that in and of itself means it is a racist doctrine, ... states a HUGE LIE

"Humans have always been a single interbreeding population"

Study this insanity, Chir trying to make an exception out of humans says, that humans inbreed only among themselves. An new breakthrough in evolutionary theory just compsed by Chir, to evade the guilt of racism. He says they have 'always been'...meaning from the Beginning humans were separated. Read his insanity again....

Your foolish theory doesnt allow you to make an EXCEPTION and articifically magically say that humans are an exception and that humans only are inbreed.

Lets see evolutionists tried to say primates are our cousins and grandparents and ancestors, meaning apes and chimps... even though their theory calls this evolution and branching and evolving new species.

They say the branch has always been there, no branch below ever branched with humans.

All this to evade the guilt of having a racist doctrione as their cornerstone.

I repeat evolutionists play semantic games and will LIE to defend their theory and illusion.

I win agin, logic wins, consistency wins, evolutionary exceptions are ridiculous..... and DESPERATE to say the least, its a blatant L**

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 178 of 404 (806822)
04-28-2017 9:43 AM
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04-28-2017 9:36 AM


Davidjay still lying
Davidjay writes:

Lets see evolutionists tried to say primates are our cousins and grandparents and ancestors, meaning apes and chimps... even though their theory calls this evolution and branching and evolving new species.

David, you know that is a lie. Humans are Primates. No one except ignorant Creationists say that humans grandparents or cousins or ancestors were chimps. Humans are primates, maybe even one of the Great Apes, but we seem to actually know who our parents are.


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Message 179 of 404 (806828)
04-28-2017 10:04 AM
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Re: .Another evolutionary LIE.... humans alone interbreed only among themselves
Davidjay writes:

Chir, again trying to get away from the truth that evolution is a branching, that in and of itself means it is a racist doctrine, ... states a HUGE LIE
"Humans have always been a single interbreeding population"

Study this insanity, Chir trying to make an exception out of humans says, that humans inbreed only among themselves. An new breakthrough in evolutionary theory just compsed by Chir, to evade the guilt of racism. He says they have 'always been'...meaning from the Beginning humans were separated. Read his insanity again....

Your foolish theory doesnt allow you to make an EXCEPTION and articifically magically say that humans are an exception and that humans only are inbreed.

Lets see evolutionists tried to say primates are our cousins and grandparents and ancestors, meaning apes and chimps... even though their theory calls this evolution and branching and evolving new species.

They say the branch has always been there, no branch below ever branched with humans.

All this to evade the guilt of having a racist doctrione as their cornerstone.

I repeat evolutionists play semantic games and will LIE to defend their theory and illusion.

I win agin, logic wins, consistency wins, evolutionary exceptions are ridiculous..... and DESPERATE to say the least, its a blatant L**

I tried Google translate, but it just seemed confused by the above. Can anyone here translate this into English for the rest of us?


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Message 180 of 404 (806833)
04-28-2017 10:34 AM
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Re: .Another evolutionary LIE.... humans alone interbreed only among themselves
...that humans inbreed only among themselves.

What else do humans breed with?


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