Why did the Christian messiah fail to fulfill the messianic prophecies?

That's not how the magi described Jesus. The called him King of the Jews, not Messiah of the Universe. The Jews never thought of their Messiah as Messiah of the Universe. That's a later Christian invention.

It's actually very clear. They asked where the child was, not where Bethlehem was. And if you're asking for directions, you don't go to the White House; you ask somebody on the street. We know they thought he was no ordinary King. Or rather, the authors of the story, who thought he was no ordinary king, claimed he was no ordinary king.He was, after all, nothing like a king in any way. It seems like a made-up attempt to portray him as something he was not.

Oh come on. Do you think Superman in the movies is the exact spittin image of Superman in comic books because Superman is real? Or could it be because one copied the other?

Everything is a failure until it succeeds. You can't claim that no prophecy in the Bible has failed until all of them succeed.Edited by ringo, : No reason given.

You contradict yourself. The FUTURE King of the world has not been fulfilled yet.

I didn't deny it. I compared it to the correspondence between Superman and Superman.

I suggested that it appears to be fiction. You're the one who trivializes fiction. You'd rather believe that outlandish nonsense is literally true.

And as long as the event is still in the Future, it is NOT fulfilled.In the Present, it is not possible to tell the difference between an unfulfilled prophecy and a failed prophecy.

Signs found in the stars are fiction.

The celestial events are there but the connection to anything in the Bible is pure fantasy. An eclipse is real but thinking it's a dragon eating the sun is not. Do you know what fiction is? Fiction IS deliberately making up something that is NOT real and connecting it to something that IS real. Long John Silver is connected to pirates and the Caribbean and Bristol, all of which are real - but Long john Silver is not real. Some readers may be deluded into thinking fiction is real but the ones who recognize fiction as fiction are not the deluded ones.

Hello? The constellation itself is made up. Somebody imagined that a particular group of stars looked like a woman.If you have a vision of Long John Silver, that doesn't prove he's real.If you see a fat man with a white beard, you'll think of Santa Claus whether you believe in Santa Claus or not. The connection doesn't make either the fictional character or the vision real.

Of course. Why can't he have a vision of something he can describe?

By whom? Is the cloud that looks like a duckie treated as an objective reality too? Other cultures see a different image and CALL it something else. That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't have had a vision of something he had never seen. He would naturally associate his vision with something he knew about.

Really? Really? Really?

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Call me Ishmael.
-- Herman Melville

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That's what I'm saying. You can't take the word of fiction that fiction is true.