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Message 16 of 150 (807278)
05-01-2017 10:58 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Coyote
05-01-2017 10:43 PM


Re: Real scientists...
I thought you just called people liars, Coyote, thats all you seem to ever do.

Maybe it works in your fields where you are expected to find finds that support evolution, so that you can get more funding for your field trips.

Me, among other occupations I am sort of an ARCHeologist too...as I have studied ARCHES... and architecture

Architecture of the Universe

The Lord was and is the Great Architect who created
all things . . . . including every living thing. This He
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and His Handiwork is shown in all the Earth as well
as the whole Universe.

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But thanks for revealing your occupation or what you make your living doing. It explasins why you are get so mad and get so zealous if anyone questions your livlihood.

Me, I'm mainly a *************** ************** and as mentioned I had to prove it and make sure, and test it on the field over and over and over again, with others, alone, in different country in my home country..... and * **

Wait for it

Jay has them again where he wants them..... He slowly sips some more coffeee, and before it gets too cold..... He (wait for it) ****

Evolutionists and archeologists are so dumb


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 17 of 150 (807279)
05-01-2017 11:02 PM
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05-01-2017 10:58 PM


Re: Real scientists...
And once more you have ducked, dodged and weaved to avoid responding to the evidence I posted several times disproving the global flood at your "exact" date.

Or did you think we wouldn't notice?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 18 of 150 (807328)
05-02-2017 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Davidjay
05-01-2017 11:30 AM


gigo is not science; open minded AND skeptical
Nah, beauty is the Phi template of creation, as all societies because of our common Creator all have the same ratios of beauty.

Except that we can see that perceptions of beauty have changed over time and vary from culture to culture. All we need to do is look at nudes to see idealized beauty in each case. From the "voluptuous nudes" of Rubens to the tall stick models of today. This shows variation in height to weight ratios.

Our common Creator used our beauty to our mates to help us be attracted so we would reproduce. He/she created sex.... and beauty and attractions. ...

Our sense of beauty evolved, because it too is selected, and it continues to evolve, along with the social changes in the perception of beauty. Just as shaved legs are now considered beautiful, supporting a mega-dollar industry, taking the apparent hairless trait to a probably impossible level through artifice. This again implies run-away sexual selection rather than god-given gifts.

... Evolutionists believe in randomness rather than ratios and mathematics, and think our attractions just happened by luck and chance.

But "ratios and mathematics" are random expressions of random perceptions. Math is not capable of invalidating reality, but reality can invalidate math. You can determine ratios and mathematical formulas for anything you observe, but that does not show cause for what is observed: if the observations had been different the ratios and the formulas made to describe them would also be different. The map is not the territory.

Message 13 Real scientists go beyond the forced indocrination they get from followers. They venture forth with courage and guts and foresight, searching for more truths. They are not intimidated by the masses, they are pioneers, and demand answers rather than just being negative and deniers.

Real scientists demand proofs for themselves, and dont stop til they find out one way or the other. They do not follow as dumb sheep, for the slaughter. They go where others dare not go.

"Real scientists" are also skeptical of results, especially their own (which may be affected by hidden biases), and thus rely on testing and replication to validate their findings, and they don't presume a finding to be true even then, rather they accept the results as a good approximation of reality/truth, and subject to continued testing and evaluation.

Some "truths" are tweaked in the process when they are found to be previously incomplete. Gravity for example: Newton's theory good enough in near relationships, but has anomalies further away (orbit of Mercury for example), so it is tweaked with Einstein's theory (which defaults to Newtonian values in near relationships).

They can explain what they have found out, and know the subject matter backwards and forwards, and go step by step or precept by precept..... one truth leading to another.

Einstein's theory would not have been sought without Newton's theory and the Mercury anomaly. Anomalies with Einstein's theory imply it too is not complete, but it is certainly good enough to get us to Saturn and beyond.

(ibid) Metaphysics is just the invisable and is no barrier to a real scientist. Only the closed minded ones that closed their eyes or demand to see only with their eyes. They miss 69/70 percent of all truths.

Sadly metaphysics cannot be empirically tested by definition, and thus cannot be science, but philosophy.

(ibid) Real scientists go behind the scenes because they know from sceince and physics, that the EMF is 70 times bigger than the mere human spectrum we humans can see. They dont deny what they haven't tested just because they cant seen it or haven't experienced it.

"Real scientists" also do not accept "what they haven't tested just because they cant seen it or haven't experienced it" but also remain skeptical both that it may be true and that it may not be true -- agnostic -- until testing provided enough additional information to show one way or the other.

Open minded enough to consider the possibility it may be true, but equally skeptical of it being true as well.

I find it interesting that you say:

Message 9 My paradigm is testing, ...

But that you accept as true several things that are untestable. Can you explain how you come to those conclusions?

What you "like" and "dislike" are irrelevant.

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Message 19 of 150 (807329)
05-02-2017 10:43 AM
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05-01-2017 10:27 PM


Davidjay writes:

Real scientists go behind the scenes because they know from sceince and physics, that the EMF is 70 times bigger than the mere human spectrum we humans can see. They dont deny what they haven't tested just because they cant seen it or haven't experienced it.

They also don't include theories that haven't been tested or theories that are not supported by evidence.

Davidjay writes:

Real scientists go beyond the forced indocrination they get from followers. They venture forth with courage and guts and foresight, searching for more truths. They are not intimidated by the masses, they are pioneers, and demand answers rather than just being negative and deniers.

The only indoctrination is learning what previous scientists have discovered through the scientific method.

They do not rely on luck and chance as their means of solving mysteries. They want to test things out personnally themselves....and they do.

History proves you wrong. Many scientific theories were discovered by luck and chance. In fact, the birth of many theories started with the phrase, "Hmm, that's strange", after coming about some observation through luck or chance. When Alexander Fleming discovered antibiotics it was through complete luck. A mold contaminated one of his plates completely by chance, and he found that bacteria wouldn't grow close to the mold. This led to the development of penicillin.

On top of that, scientists model luck or chance in almost every scientific test they do. When they say that they have positive or negative results this is almost always in reference to statistical significance. That significance is based on the probability that luck or chance would produce a false positive or a false negative.

Metaphysics is just the invisable and is no barrier to a real scientist.

Metaphysics is not the invisible. Metaphysics is the untestable assumptions that one uses to describe the universe. Invisible things like x-rays or radio waves can be tested, and are not metaphysical. Perhaps you should read up on epistemology and axioms.

Jay sips more of his coffee........ for he has them right where he wants them..... evolutionists and atheists and blind scientists are so dumb and so easily defeated....

So says the person who doesn't know what metaphysics is.


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Message 20 of 150 (807358)
05-02-2017 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Taq
05-01-2017 12:12 PM


TRUTH, Truth, truth, ~truth
Science really isn't interested in philosophical truths or metaphysics. Science is much more practical in that we use science because it appears to work. ... Otherwise, science really doesn't give a hoot about Truth, with a capital T.

That's why I used "small t" truth and listed the definitions I did for it:

Message 1:
  • the quality or state of being true:
  • that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality:
  • a fact or belief that is accepted as true:

synonyms: fact • verity • certainty • certitude • law • principle

... Science is much more practical in that we use science because it appears to work. ... scientists are just busy figuring out how the universe works. ...

What we find are approximations for truth, ~truth if you will, that become increasingly refined as our knowledge builds on previous findings with new information that is found/uncovered/revealed, whether by experiment, by accident, or by review of previous work.

We say that the theory of evolution is so well supported by objective empirical evidence that we accept it as fact ... by which we mean being the best approximation to reality that we know at this time, ie ~true.

We could also say that evolution is the truest explanation of the facts that is known.

Enjoy

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Message 21 of 150 (807455)
05-03-2017 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Tanypteryx
05-01-2017 10:55 PM


The real world, is not just what the human eye sees. In science, the real world involves what we can not see, because the EMF is real and is proven to be real over and over and over again. Our human sight is limited, but can not limit our knowledge of the unseen world beyond. WE know about x rays, radio waves, etc etc etc, inrared waves, below and baove our limited seeing range.

Denial by the worldly people who refuse to go beyond to the world of science and spirituality, lose out because of their denails, denails denials.

Real scientists are not afraid of the dark, or the spiritual world.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 22 of 150 (807456)
05-03-2017 8:40 AM
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05-02-2017 1:11 PM


Re: TRUTH, Truth, truth, ~truth
The facts known do not correspond to luck and chance philosophy.

Thats a desperate frustrated conclusion reached by bound blinded scientists who limit their searches to what they want to see or not see.

Real scientists go beyond into real testing and real discovery.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 23 of 150 (807457)
05-03-2017 8:49 AM


Real Scientists test out Jesus !
So the only way to personally explore the spirit world, beyond the realm of the blinded and unseeing is to test it out and see personally...as Jesus said.

'Taste and see if the Lord is good'

Experience it, try it, test it... if it fails, then you have been honest and courageous and have done your part. But true scientists do not know football til they have gone on the field and taken the hits and experienced the pain and known the agony of defeat and the euphoria of victory.

They cant be on the side line, denying denying denying, as whimps and whoosies and yet bragging about their theories that are unproven. They have no expertise because they have never put the pads on, and experienced. They are cowards and whimps and whoosies.... fearful of their inabilities and inexperiences, because they are AFRAID

But real scientists explore and try and test out theories. They find out if Jesus is real, and test HIM, and challenge HIM, and step out.

After finding out He is real, then they must continue to test and TEST and EXPERIENCE and PROVE that the different things the Lord said work and are true.

To HELL with evolutionary theories and spiritual theories and atheism and their theories, a true scientist tests and proves all principles and puts them to the test in real life.

He or she tests out the faith walk and sees if the Lord provides. They give 100 percent and put it all on the line, not like whoosie archeologists in their digs, or biologists trying to pad their pockets with bones and theories... real scientists do it, and experience it, and test it..

And only from this can a true scientist know and understand and gain knowledge and wisdom from first hand experience.

Jesus WINS, Jesus is proveable, being a missionary for Jesus wins, now and FOREVER

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 24 of 150 (807461)
05-03-2017 9:10 AM
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05-03-2017 8:49 AM


Re: Real Scientists test out Jesus !
So the only way to personally explore the spirit world, beyond the realm of the blinded and unseeing is to test it out and see personally...as Jesus said.

'Taste and see if the Lord is good'


Experience it, try it, test it... ...

This is not a test in the scientific sense: what parameters are being used to measure it?

When most people come to different conclusions from such testing the test is indeterminate.

Enjoy

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Message 25 of 150 (807465)
05-03-2017 9:25 AM
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05-03-2017 8:40 AM


Re: TRUTH, Truth, truth, ~truth
The facts known do not correspond to luck and chance philosophy.

Which only proves that your portrayal of science as luck and chance philosophy is incorrect.

Thats a desperate frustrated conclusion reached by bound blinded scientists who limit their searches to what they want to see or not see.

Ah, you're referring to creationist pretend scientists.

Real scientists go beyond into real testing and real discovery.

ie things that can be replicated by others:

That completes the process cycle, that's when the theory begins to be useful.

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Message 26 of 150 (807466)
05-03-2017 9:29 AM
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05-03-2017 9:10 AM


Re: Real Scientists test out Jesus !
The test is your life and all your senses.

You yourself have to prove things to yourself and stop bowing to the pressures of others, and intimidation, fear of losing your job or friends, etc etc... you have to have the guts to prove Jesus to yourself. If you reject HIM personnally from direct effort, so be it. You can hold your head high and declare HIM a LIE and a charlatan and every other name under the book as others have done.

But dont do such idocracy just because the dam church system is so damnable or the dam preachers are so damnable and vile, do so from first hand experience rather than hersay and indirect evidence and circumstantial evidence. Sort through the lies and half truths and get to the CORE. Get to Jesus and deny HIM because you meet HIM and dislike HIM and hate HIM, or say He didn;t prove himself to you, so you dislike Him or Hate Him or Hate His followers etc.

Go to the source, dont be whimpy and evasive, be a real scientist, and find OUT.

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Salvation

Holy Spirit

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And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never
thirst.

Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will
give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall
have the light of life.

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of
God?

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can
do nothing.

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the
bright and morning star.

Fear not; I am the first and the last:

I am thy shield, and thy exceeding Great Reward.

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the
Father that dwelleth in me, My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the
kingdom of God that which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto
thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it
cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

The words that I (Jesus) speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

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(((If you believe these His Words, you are receiving Him. For 'As many as believed on Him, to them gave He the power to
become the 'sons (and daughters) of God' (John 1; 12) For God so loved the world that He gave His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,
that whosoever believeth on Him, should not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE. (John 3: 16) ..... Receive Him Now.......
Jesus loves you !!! )))

JESUS'S OWN WORDS
Salvation
Holy Spirit

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 27 of 150 (807467)
05-03-2017 9:33 AM


To find out if someone exists and is a real person, the ultimate test is meeting them.

Christians say, they have meet Jesus, Jesus said, He can meet any person who wants to know if he is real. Thats the ultimate test, and once someone has meet someone who exists, they KNOW that person is real. Its not a belief system, a hoping, a faith, but a KNOWING.

Scientists usually just believe, a CHRISTIAN KNOWS JESUS is REAL


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 28 of 150 (807472)
05-03-2017 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Davidjay
05-03-2017 9:29 AM


Re: Real Scientists...
...be a real scientist, and find OUT.

If you were a real scientist you'd have an answer to the evidence I posted disproving the global flood 4350 years ago.

I've asked you for a response half a dozen times or more but you keep dodging, ducking, and weaving.

You have no answer, all you have is numerology, delusions, and word salads. Those don't prove the flood, while the evidence from my own research disproves the flood.

Guess you just can't face it, eh?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 29 of 150 (807491)
05-03-2017 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Davidjay
05-03-2017 8:38 AM


Davidjay writes:

Denial by the worldly people who refuse to go beyond to the world of science and spirituality, lose out because of their denails, denails denials.

The difference is that we can empirically test for EMF radiation. Not so for the claimed existence of the spiritual. The reason that science does not accept the existence of the spiritual is because there is no scientific evidence that such a thing exists.

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Message 30 of 150 (807492)
05-03-2017 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Coyote
05-03-2017 9:55 AM


Re: Real Scientists...
Real scientists test out and see if Jesus is real...and stop complaining about their pet peeves and others and calling others names. They just go to the SOURCE.

They dont back up a theory just because their whole lives depend on that theory, all their livlihood involves their compliance to a theory, all their funding, their job, their bank accounts, etc etc... all are based on that theory. Their friendships, their relationships, based on bones that must comply to the theory of evolution or they are blacklisted and removed from their jobs and homes.

True scientists have courage and find out truths regardless of consequences.

I did, I proved Jesus was real, while in University..graduated even when evolutionary profs tried to prevent it, and then went on to be a missionary for Jesus for life...for LIFE< all my life, by the Grace of God. Thats over 40 some years as a missionary for Jesus, I know from doing it and not just from the experiences of others. I did it and KNOW JESUS IS REAL

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As mentioned, KNOWING is different than believing. Evolutionists believe in their myth and theory, but true scientists know and have tested and proven theories so it becomes a law, to them.
Christians KNOW Jesus is real.

If you dont know, know that you can KNOW, and dont have to sit on the fence. Challenge HIM to prove HIMSELF TO YOU

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/HowtogetFaith.html


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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