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New Cat's Eye
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Message 76 of 108 (807530)
05-03-2017 4:03 PM
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05-03-2017 10:38 AM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
From where I am sitting, I have won all discussions and wonder why evolutionists are so easy to defeat,..
The easiest person to convince is yourself.
The real measure is how many other people you have convinced?
That it is exactly zero is very telling.
Nobody cares that you can fool yourself.

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Message 77 of 108 (807623)
05-04-2017 11:51 AM
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05-03-2017 4:03 PM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Lets move on with more proofs..... and then follow it with more proofs afterwards.... not for evolutionists but for the sake of interested open minded readers.
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Sacred Mile, Sacred Measure
The earliest form of measure was the mile because it correlates to the rest of the Lords Creation. So we really cant call it the
English mile because its origins were long before the English Empire arose. For even in Greece, the ancients Greeks
modeled their Parthenon after the foot, which is the basis for a mile. (SEE Parthenon) And going back even further into
history the span of 9 inches (finger to thumb) and cubit of 18 inches (finger to elbow) of the Hebrews came from the Lord in
the very beginning called Genesis. And so inches are a basic of a foot which are the basis for a mile, and they are all a
measure from the Lord
Why, because the Lord is the Creator, and as the Great Architect, He has his absolute standards and measure. As measure
comes from the word mer which means water and plowing in Egyptian. Why, the connection because when the Nile
flooded, the farmers lands were inundated and they had to determine what was their boundaries for plowing. And hence,
the Lord has boundaries and measures just as He puts the sand as a boundary for the sea, not to pass over. (Jeremiah 5: 22).
And He requires us to plow our land
For similarly even His sacred measure of the acre, is the amount of land, a man and a oxen can plow in a day. For we are
suppose break up our fallow ground physically as well as spiritually. (Jeremiah 4: 3, Hosea 10: 12) so we can be fruitful
and multiply, which was the very First commandment. And ten acres make up a square furlong, and a furlong was the
sacred distance of the golden reed of the angel in Revelation 21. So lets read it for a better understanding
Rev 21:15
And he (the angel) that talked with me had a golden reed to
measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall
thereof.
Rev 21:16
And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large
as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed,
twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth
and the height of it are equal.
Rev 21:17
And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and
forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a
man, that is, of the angel.
And therefore, we can see that the Lord even measures His Temple, New Jerusalem with the sacred furlong measure. A
furlong being 660 feet in length, while He measures His wall with the cubit and its 1.5 feet or 18 inches . 440 cubits
making a furlong. (SEE 440 co-relations with 108,109,110 Hertz)
And so how many furlongs does it take to make a mile. EIGHT. And 660 feet times 8 = 5280 feet which is one MILE. And
this is not by chance but by design, because it relates to the Lord's “Chessboard of Life and Mathematics In other words,
an eight by eight playing field or chessboard, is 8 x 8, or 64 squares. And if each square is a square furlong, then the whole
Board is a 'Sacred Square Mile'. (SEE Chessboard of Life and mathematics and Grail Mysteries)
So the arbitrary mile and the foot are not so arbitrary. But lets prove their co-relations to the whole design of the Earth to
prove even further mathematically that the mile is sacred and divinely created.
So taking the measures of
9" = span 1 acre = 1/640 of a square mile
12" = foot = 43,560 square
18' = cubit = 160 square rods
198" = pole = 16.5 = 11 cubits = 10 sq. chains
7920" = furlong = 660 = 1 sacred reed = 1/10th of a square furlong
63360" = mile = 5280 = 8 furlongs
1 square mile = 64 square furlongs
Earths Diameter
7,920 miles = 63,360 furlongs
In terms of ratios that we can understand an INCH is to a Mile what a FURLONG is to the EARTH. In other words we
know how long our digit length is and so we can understand how that relates to a mile, and similarly, we know how far a
furlong is, if we have walked it enough, or plowed enough and so can comprehend how big the Earth itself is, as we are
related to the Earth, because we have a Common Creator. Are you catching it ?
So no wonder the angel said that the furlong was according to the measure of a man (the earth) that is, of the angel
(heaven).

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 78 of 108 (807627)
05-04-2017 11:58 AM
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05-04-2017 11:51 AM


Re: Mis-measure of a man !!!

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.

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Message 79 of 108 (807634)
05-04-2017 12:14 PM
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05-04-2017 11:51 AM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Earths Diameter
7,920 miles = 63,360 furlongs
Earths Diameter
7,917.5 miles = 63,340 furlongs
Oopsie, looks like God screwed up again.
What does this have to do with the speed of light?
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 80 of 108 (807655)
05-04-2017 1:55 PM
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05-04-2017 11:51 AM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Lets move on with more proofs.....
Let's not and say we did.

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Message 81 of 108 (807782)
05-05-2017 12:11 PM
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05-04-2017 1:55 PM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Lets move on and further prove that distances were created and that they are not at random, and that the measuring of these distances was originally created in template fashion, so that cubits, feet, inches all related to man including an ACRE.... all again relating back to macro-distances in space or the Solar System.
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An Acre and Sacred Time
An acre was not developed by the Britiah in measuring land area, but was a sacred measure that goes right back to the Hebrews
and to the ratio's of size and time that the Lord has always used. It harmonizes wi6th the rest of His Creation. Hence an acre is
the land area, a man can plow with a yoke of oxen in one day. In other words, it's size is determined by the work of man in a
certain amount of sacred time.... one day.
1Samuel 14:14 And that first slaughter, which Jonathan and his armourbearer made, was about twenty men, within as it were an
half acre of land, which a yoke of oxen might plow.
The Lord also knowing exactly what his land would produce at any given time ... which of course would only be known by the
Creator Himself...
Isaiah 5:10 Yea, ten acres of vineyard shall yield one bath, and the seed of an homer shall yield an ephah.
Knowing this, let's now look at the correspondances of this sacred size to the measurements we know
An acre = 43,560 square feet
= 660 feet times 66 feet
But one furlong equals 660 feet
= 1 furlkong x 1/10 f.
Therefore
= 1/10 of a square furlong Or Ten acres equals One square
furlong
But in One day there are
12 hours x 60 min/hr x 60 seconds/minute
= 43,200 seconds
SEE 432 and Sacred Measure
So amazingly if we can just progress one foot per second then
we can accomplish what the Lord wants us to plow in one day.
John 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it
is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
And when you consider that his speed of light travels one foot
in one billionth of a second, or in a nanosecond, then surely we
can go one billionth time as fast as He can, in our work for Him.
Jeremiah 4: 3 For thus saith the LORD to the men of Judah
and Jerusalem, Break up your fallow ground, and sow not
among thorns
Hosea 10: 12 Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy;
break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD
till he come and rain righteousness upon you.
But let's go further and plow more. For if go for ten days
we shall plow one whole square furlong. And as we are told
a furlong is a measure of the divine angel in Revelation. 21:16
And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the
breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve
thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height
of it are equal.
So the divine sacred furlong is also used to measure the
Lord's house as well as our work for Him. And working hard
for 640 days we can cover a whole square mile
SEE also 432 and Divine Measure
Sacred Mile, Sacred Measure
Hmmm...... and that brings us to the great possibility that magic mathematical squares are important if we know the Lord's
numbers and NAME. SEE Magic Square of the Sun .......and why Searle, could use that knowledge for a Levitation Vehicle.
Why because all the Lord's laws of physics co-relate together harmonically ... distance, diameters, time, ratio's, speeds and even
the area, we are suppose to plow in a day. Because we are suppose to work the work of Him that sent us while there is day. We
are suppose to plow His fields. Are you ?
I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day:
the night cometh, when no man can work. John 9: 4

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.

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Message 82 of 108 (807789)
05-05-2017 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Davidjay
05-05-2017 12:11 PM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Lets move on and...
Let's not and say we did.
***********************
A charlatan (also called swindler or mountebank) is a person practising quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame or other advantages via some form of pretense or deception.
The word comes from French charlatan, a seller of medicines who might advertise his presence with music and an outdoor stage show. The best known of the Parisian charlatans was Tabarin, who set up a stage in the Place Dauphine, Paris in 1618, and whose commedia dell'arte inspired skits and farces inspired Molire. The word can also be traced to Spanish; charlatn, an indiscreetly talkative person, a chatterbox. Ultimately, etymologists trace "charlatan" from either the Italian ciarlare, to chatter or prattle; or from Cerretano, a resident of Cerreto, a village in Umbria, known for its quacks.
In usage, a subtle difference is drawn between the charlatan and other kinds of confidence trickster. The charlatan is usually a salesperson. He does not try to create a personal relationship with his marks, or set up an elaborate hoax using roleplaying. Rather, the person called a charlatan is being accused of resorting to quackery, pseudoscience, or some knowingly employed bogus means of impressing people in order to swindle his victims by selling them worthless nostrums and similar goods or services that will not deliver on the promises made for them. The word calls forth the image of an old-time medicine show operator, who has long since left town by the time the people who bought his "snake oil" or similarly named tonic realize that it does not perform as advertised.
In reported spiritual communications, a charlatan is a person who fakes evidence that a spirit is "making contact" with the medium and seekers. Notable people who have successfully debunked the claims of purported supernatural mediums include magician/scientific skeptic James Randi, Brazilian writer Monteiro Lobato and magician Harry Houdini.
Synonyms for "charlatan" include "mountebank", "shyster", and "quack." "Mountebank" comes from the Italian montambanco or montimbanco based on the phrase monta in banco - literally referring to the action of a seller of dubious medicines getting up on a bench to address his audience of potential customers.
"Quack" is a reference to "quackery" or the practice of dubious medicine.

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Message 83 of 108 (807798)
05-05-2017 1:28 PM
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05-05-2017 12:11 PM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Hi Davidjay,
Please start responding to the errors people have noted in your math and arguments, and use the quoting facility, or I will drop this thread into summation mode.

--Percy
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Message 84 of 108 (807802)
05-05-2017 1:39 PM
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05-05-2017 12:11 PM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
And if we take the number of seconds in 100 twelve hour days, we get 4,320,000 seconds. Add to that the number of feet in 1,000 furlongs (660,000), you get 4,980,000. If you then add 42 of you diameters of the earth (7,920 * 42), you get to 5,312,640. Add 12 divine measures of 432, the number of square rods in a cubit (160) and the number of sacred hours in a day (24), and you get to 5,318,008.
Turn that upside down on a calculator and yea, I say unto you that you get "boobies" - proof positive of the Lord's most inspired creation !

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 85 of 108 (807806)
05-05-2017 1:53 PM
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05-05-2017 12:11 PM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
The Lord also knowing exactly what his land would produce at any given time ... which of course would only be known by the
Creator Himself...
Or, y'know, a farmer.
An acre = 43,560 square feet
= 660 feet times 66 feet
But one furlong equals 660 feet
= 1 furlkong x 1/10 f.
Therefore
= 1/10 of a square furlong Or Ten acres equals One square
furlong
But in One day there are
12 hours x 60 min/hr x 60 seconds/minute
= 43,200 seconds
SEE 432 and Sacred Measure
So amazingly if we can just progress one foot per second
That would be 1.0083 square feet per second. Amazing.
And when you consider that his speed of light travels one foot in one billionth of a second, or in a nanosecond
0.984 feet per nanosecond.
Don't they let you have calculators in the asylum?

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Message 86 of 108 (807885)
05-06-2017 10:59 AM
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05-05-2017 1:53 PM


Re:Sacred Geometry websites
sacred geometry how to build your own universe - Google Search
I certainly cant take the credit for sacred geometry, it is a long established mathematical principle and PHI principle established and taught in mystery schools since the begining, as it explains the mathematical progression of the Lord in hsi templating of life.
As just mentioned, I first became aware of it in 1994, in a reference book at the local library. I xeroxed every page and took it home and studied it, and discerned it as true and verifiable and consistent with the BIBLE and its ARCHITECTURE and construction principles.
How to build your own Universe..... by ******
Strange title, but awesome book even though the author hinslef was not Christian..... but the facts were facts and awesome and explanatory.
So blame me if you like, but its not my work, I stood on the shoulders of others, mainly the Lord, the Creator who templated life and cycles and us.
I shall now put it online for readers to discern.... as the graphics make it self explanatory with an addition of maybe only two hyperlinks to articles that are hyperlinked to other articles which are hyperlinked to other explanatory articles.
Onward Christian soldiers and scientists and teachers

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 87 of 108 (807913)
05-06-2017 7:36 PM
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05-04-2017 11:51 AM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
the span of 9 inches (finger to thumb) and cubit of 18 inches (finger to elbow)
Wrong. My little finger to thumb is 8 inches. Thumb to index finger is 4 inches. Tip of middle finger to outside of elbow is 17 inches. Tip of middle finger to inside of elbow is 14 inches. My foot is not a foot long.
All human measurements are arbitrary so all your ratios are arbitrary.
Edited by 14174dm, : clarification

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Message 88 of 108 (807918)
05-06-2017 9:23 PM
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Re: Measure of a man !!!
Truly the boobies number is of great mystic significance. For behold, let B be the boobies number, let c be the speed of light in miles per second, and let m be the number of days in a lunar month.
Then B / c = m.
Checkmate, atheists.

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Message 89 of 108 (807964)
05-07-2017 11:51 AM
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05-06-2017 7:36 PM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Yes, you distances are small but your ratio or GOLDEN SECTION ratio of your body is according to the template of creation, template of reproduction, population expansion, branching, etc etc.... is according to the exact ratio called Phi or the Golden SECTION.
All human measurements are arbitrary so all your ratios are arbitrary.
So again to understand this thread you must study the Golden Section LAW, its not debateable it is not a theory, it is exact and a GIVEN in mathematics and geometry.
Its an excat ratio...EXACT.
This thread is simply a research thread where I applied this exact ratio to the plane of the Earths orbit around the Sun, and found again that PHI or the Golden Section applies, and approximates it, and therefore assume its exact as the template of PHI is exact.
So doubters, who try to fight the Golden Section Law, please do so now.... and fight mathematics and exactness, before we go on to applying this exact ratio of mathematics to the Solar System.
Fight and disagree with the Golden Section.....
Please proceed.
Once we have established the truth and mathematics of the Golden Section or PHI, then at stage 2 we can move on to its possible application as a template for the Solar System.
It was previously noted and explained, but lets go back to STEP 1, for those that have skipped that prerequisite mathematics.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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.

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Message 90 of 108 (808162)
05-08-2017 5:04 PM
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05-07-2017 11:51 AM


Re: Measure of a man !!!
Davidjay writes:
Its an excat ratio...EXACT.
If the numbers don't excatly match the godlen rotia, does that mean it isnt' desinged?

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