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Author Topic:   Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.
Tangle
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Message 986 of 1006 (808477)
05-11-2017 3:00 AM
Reply to: Message 985 by Dredge
05-11-2017 2:49 AM


Dredge writes:
Can you cite one example of Hitler invoking the name of Jesus Christ?
Well it took me 30 seconds to find this - close enough?
quote:
In a speech from April 12, 1922 and published in his book My New Order, Adolf Hitler explains his perspective on Jesus Christ:
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross."

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 990 of 1006 (808659)
05-12-2017 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 988 by Dredge
05-12-2017 4:45 AM


Dredge writes:
Yet there are Hitler quotes that indicate he hated Christianity.
As you haven't provided any, it's a mute point.
So it's a very confusing picture. Anyhow, there always exists the distinct possibility that he used pro-Christian rhetoric to appeal to a Christiian audience. Oldest trick in the book.
Never-the-less you asked for evidence and we provided it. Now you have it, you wriggle away again. Cake and eat it?
However, I agree that psychopathic, genocidal dictators are very bad examples to use for anything other than being psychopathic, genocidal dictators so perhaps you can learn that lesson and stop bringing him up?
Now, tell us about these objective morals that you have - what are they?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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