The TRVE history of the Flood...

You are the one lying if anyone is. I've quoted the source of this on this thread before and mentioned it a number of times. What, it didn't cover some part of the continent so I can't say "all?" It stretches across the entire continent and is also found in the UK. Here is the source. And before you complain that it's a creationist source let me tell you that it was edge who first used it as a source, I think on this thread: Where did I say there were? What do you mean by "cover?" The four strata/time periods on the NA continent in the maps that HBD posted some time ago that I've linked to many times already on this thread cover a HUGE amount of the continent.And that's all I said.Obviously you are the liar.

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Where did I say there were? What do you mean by "cover?" The four strata/time periods on the NA continent in the maps that HBD posted some time ago that I've linked to many times already on this thread cover a HUGE amount of the continent.

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Can you please stop misrepresenting those diagrams ? All they show is that rocks of the appropriate age exist at those locations (and if they are at the surface).They do NOT show the extent of any formation (let alone the extent of strata within that formation). That information is simply not present.

In that case they obviously cover MORE territory than the maps show.

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In that case they obviously cover MORE territory than the maps show.

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Would you like to explain that ? Starting with what "they" refers to.

That's correct. You are claiming that a worldwide flood is evidence by worldwide sedimentary layers. If a sedimentary layer only covers part of the world, THEN YOU CONCLUSION IS FALSIFIED. It's that simple. By that measure, the Mississippi river covers the entire North American continent. "The strata that make up what is traditionally called the Geological Column, that also is the basis of the Geological Time Scale, covers HUGE amounts of territory, huge, some of them whole continents"There is not a single sedimentary layer that covers an entire continent.

FWIW and considering you are unlikely to get an answer, the pollen is probably the old PRATT about the incompetent Clifford Burdick. See Chadwick's PRECAMBRIAN POLLEN IN THE GRAND CANYON A REEXAMINATION.There is evidence of grasses in the Cretaceous. Dinosaurs Dined on Grass, Dinosaur Coprolites and the Early Evolution of Grasses and Grazers. Don't see how this gives anyt comfort to creationists.

True enough. However, one of those places where it is not shown is to the north, on the Canadian Shield, from the Iowa-Minnesota state line to the north.It turns out that this is where the sand for the Saint Peters Sandstone came from. It was an area that was actively being eroded with the sand being deposited on a shoreline along a southerly sea. In fact, some of the grains came from the older Potsdam Formation, a sandstone that formed during the first Paleozoic transgression that we call the Sauk Sequence. It is also noted that some of the smaller grains are wind-abraded.What this means is that there was a land mass to the north. In other words, there was dry land in that area, therefor, no global flood.JSTOR: Access CheckCare to discuss?Edited by edge, : No reason given.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Removed url from subtitle. I presume it got inserted there accidentally. Such has caused problems in the past.

Good GREEEEEEEEF.The Flood wouldn't have had to cover every square inch of land with a sediment layer. Surely there would have been gaps in the load carried in the water, suirely there would have been areas eroded away after deposition.Somebody shoot me. Lethally please.

Then The Flood is completely unfalsifiable. No matter what the pattern of sedimentation is, you will claim that it is consistent with a global flood.Worldwide sedimentary layer? The flood.Patchy quiltwork of different sedimentary layers? The flood.A complete mixing of all types of fossils? The flood.A worldwide correlation of specifically sorted fossils? The flood.Do you see the problem?

What Faith can't explain using the imaginary flood is what actually exists. She cannot explain the White Cliffs of Dover.She cannot explain the things that were alive before the flood (many before the Garden of Eden) yest have never been under water for a year.She cannot explain the paintings and petroglyphs from before the flood (many from before the Garden of Eden) that were never under water for a year.She cannot explain the cities that existed before and after the flood yet were not flooded.She cannot explain the civilizations (many in the Middle East) that existed before and after the flood but never even noticed it.Reality says that the Biblical flood never happened.The Bible shows that the Biblical Flood never happened.

Yeah, but what about magic? Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't magic.

And if Faith claimed "Magic" I'd certainly have to admit that was possible.

Referring to the St. Peter Sandstone: Your greater point probably stands just fine, but I had to comment on your saying "no St. Peter Sandstone in Minnesota". The type locality of the St. Peter Sandstone is in Minnesota. Offhand, I think the Paleozoic ends about half way north in Minnesota. I'm pretty sure that there are some limited Mesozoic age deposits in the iron range area, to the northwest of Lake Superior.No reply needed.Moose

I reread the article to see where I went awry on that one.It says that the shoreline fluctuated across southern Minnesota and some wholly terrestrial deposits occur there. South of the state line the sands are all marine.Thanks for the catch.

Hi Faith, Walt Brown the Director of the Center for Scientific Creation proposed the Hydroplate Theory. In this theory rocks and water is blasted into space. A 5 mile thick llayer of rock is blown apart and into space and returned to earth and formed the layers we have in the earth today. This had to take place in less than a year and be compacted to withstand 22,000 psi that oil is under that is in the deep wells such as Verizon.But since he was born in 1937 his theory is relatively young.Ellen Gould Harmond White was born November 26, 1827 and died July 16, 1915. Her and her husband along with others formed what became known as the Seventh-day Adventist Church.At the age of nine, she was severely injured in the face by a stone and was unconscious, for three weeks. From the time she was 17 until she was 70 she claimed God gave her near 2,000 dreams and visions. She wrote 5,000 periodical articles and 40 books. From her manuscripts another 60+ books have been compiled.

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Then "the fountains of the great deep" were "broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." Water appeared to come from the clouds in mighty cataracts. Rivers broke away from their boundaries, and overflowed the valleys. Jets of water burst from the earth with indescribable force, throwing massive rocks hundreds of feet into the air, and these, in falling, buried themselves deep in the ground.

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The people first beheld the destruction of the works of their own hands. Their splendid buildings, and the beautiful gardens and groves where they had placed their idols, were destroyed by lightning from heaven, and the ruins were scattered far and wide. The altars on which human sacrifices had been offered were torn down, and the worshipers were made to tremble at the power of the living God, and to know that it was their corruption and idolatry which had called down their destruction.

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As the violence of the storm increased, trees, buildings, rocks, and earth were hurled in every direction. The terror of man and beast was beyond description. Above the roar of the tempest was heard the wailing of a people that had despised the authority of God. Satan himself, who was compelled to remain in the midst of the warring elements, feared for his own existence. He had delighted to control so powerful a race, and desired them to live to practice their abominations and continue their rebellion against the Ruler of heaven. He now uttered imprecations against God,

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Patriarchs and Prophets written 1866 Chapter 7 Page 99 The Flood found here Patriarchs and Prophets — Ellen G. White WritingsNow if you can find evidence of such a description of the flood prior to 1866 I will stop mentioning Ellen G. White as the original source of the catastrophic flood story.God Bless,