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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Evolution is the official personal information manager for GNOME. It combines e-mail, address book, calendar, task list and note-taking features. Its user interface and functionality is similar to Microsoft Outlook. Evolution is free software licensed under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL). What predictions can that hodge-podge produce?
This is thread is for definitions of Evolution. You don't need to argue about whether it is a valid theory or not. But for the science forum it has to be scientific and produce useful predictions. Let's at least try to be scientific here. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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CRR Member (Idle past 2243 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
Intelligent design proponent David Klinghoffer (2016) claims that intelligent design is a theory of evolution, seeking to explain why biological diversity flowers and grows in the manner it does. It’s just not Darwin’s theory of evolution.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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CRR writes: Intelligent design proponent David Klinghoffer (2016) claims that intelligent design is a theory of evolution, seeking to explain why biological diversity flowers and grows in the manner it does. It’s just not Darwin’s theory of evolution. Yet Klinghoffer, like all the folk trying to market ID, has never offered any evidence of any designer, intelligent or otherwise. He may claim ID is a Theory but at best it might rise to the level of a hypothesis; most often it is simply a fantasy.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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CRR writes: Intelligent design proponent David Klinghoffer (2016) claims that intelligent design is a theory of evolution, seeking to explain why biological diversity flowers and grows in the manner it does. It’s just not Darwin’s theory of evolution. The problem is that all he has is claims and no evidence.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
If you want to learn more about the fossil record, read creationist science.
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2477 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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Dredge writes: If you want to learn more about the fossil record, read creationist science. Do you advise this on the basis that living fossils declaiming from pulpits should understand long dead ones found in rocks?
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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If you want to learn more about the fossil record, read creationist science. If you want to learn more about the fossil record, try a few years in graduate school (I did just that). If you want to see the exact opposite of real science, a 180 perversion of real science, read creation "science."Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
In graduate school, all you'll get is the fossil record according to the atheist cult of Darwinism.
Pierre-P. Grasse: "Assuming that the Darwinian hypothesis ... [paleontologists then] interpret fossil data according to it .... The error in their method is obvious."
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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In graduate school, all you'll get is the fossil record according to the atheist cult of Darwinism. So we have a conspiracy theory, where all the paleontologists around the world are agreeing to a fake interpretation ... just to annoy creationists. Does this also include the molecular geneticists doing all that DNA testing and comparisons between species that somehow end up with the same tree of life pattern as that fake fossil conspiracy crowd produced? Maybe the geologists that do the analysis on the rocks to determine their relative ages ...? And the physicists that do the radiometric testing to determine more absolute ages ... ? Is a significant portion of the whole scientific world involved in some grand conspiracy for the sole purpose of annoying a few creationists? Inquiring minds want to know. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Dredge writes: In graduate school, all you'll get is the fossil record according to the atheist cult of Darwinism. There is no such thing as "the atheist cult of Darwinism" except in the writings from the Christian Cult of Ignorance. Evolution is a fact & the Theory of Evolution is the only explanation for the diversity of life seen today and in the past. Creationism offers no explanation at all. Even the basic source for Creationism, the Bible stories, contain two mutually exclusive creation myths. They differ in the order of creation, the method of creation and in the characteristics of the creator. If one is accurate then the other by definition is false. In addition simply claiming some creator has no explanatory power or worth. It is simply a claim of magic. Evolution refers to biological change over time. There is evidence that biological life forms did change over time. There is NO evidence though of any creator, any special creation or any recent creation.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
In graduate school, all you'll get is the fossil record according to the atheist cult of Darwinism. In graduate school we had a bone lab with casts of all the major fossils, along with skeletons of humans and most of the primates. We were able to check the data for ourselves. This is the exact opposite of what creationists do.
Pierre-P. Grasse: "Assuming that the Darwinian hypothesis ... [paleontologists then] interpret fossil data according to it .... The error in their method is obvious." Grasse died in 1895, and according to Wiki "He was an expert on termites and one of the last proponents of neo-Lamarckian evolution." Not exactly your most current and authoritative source, but its just like creationists to go back in time looking for anything that they can quote mine to try and make the theory of evolution go away. If creationists actually had evidence for their claims they wouldn't have to spend all their time arguing against evolution.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Dredge writes: Pierre-P. Grasse: "Assuming that the Darwinian hypothesis ... [paleontologists then] interpret fossil data according to it .... The error in their method is obvious." Yikes. I had to look that one up. You quote-mined a guy that died in the 19th century? I'm tempted to say that that's a new low, but I know better. Have you really run out of anything sensible to say?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Coyote writes: Grasse died in 1895 Er, no; you got that slightly wrong ... he was born in 1895! He died in 1985. Pierre-Paul was a zoologist and was highly esteemed by his peers. He was at one point President of the French Academy of Sciences, was the author of over 300 publications and received many official honours for his contributions to science.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes: You mine-quoted a guy that died in the nineteenth century? Wrong (see post # 673). And you've obviously missed the irony here - your messiah, Charles Darwin, died in the nineteenth century, yet you see no problem in quoting him! The pot just called the kettle, black.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Wrong (see post # 673). And you've obviously missed the irony here - your messiah, Charles Darwin, died in the nineteenth century, yet you see no problem in quoting him! Havin' a little competition with yourself there to see what's the dumbest thing you can write?
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