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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
The Grand Canyon was caused by the receeding Floofdwaters of the worldwide flood, but thery dont want that discussed... or known or studied. That flood nonsense was studied and disproved over 200 years ago. The evidence since then has only grown more convincing--to those who actually accept evidence rather than following old tribal myths. Even my own archaeological research disproves the flood at your "exact" date, which I have posted many times and which you continue to pretend doesn't exist.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Here's a little bit for you. This was the beginning of the end for the flood idea:
Other naturalists were critical of Diluvialism: the Church of Scotland pastor John Fleming published opposing arguments in a series of articles from 1823 onwards. He was critical of the assumption that fossils resembling modern tropical species had been swept north "by some violent means", which he regarded as absurd considering the "unbroken state" of fossil remains. For example, fossil mammoths demonstrated adaptation to the same northern climates now prevalent where they were found. He criticized Buckland's identification of red mud in the Kirkdale cave as diluvial, when near identical mud in other caves had been described as fluvial.[5] While Cuvier had reconciled geology with a loose reading of the Biblical text, Fleming argued that such a union was "indiscreet" and turned to a more literal view of Genesis:[29] Flood geology - WikipediaReligious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
So the Flood laid down all the sediments along with the shells and other fossils, and after the Flood the mountains were raised: that's the tectonic activity that occurred with the splitting of the continents. See? It all works out just fine. But the dating doesn't work. That's way too much mountain building etc. to pack into 4350 years. Or actually more like under 2000 years, as by about 500 BC the Greeks were making a lot of observations and records and the tectonic activity that would be associated with such rapid mountain building (and plate movement) would surely have been noticed. (The Egyptians were making records much earlier, and they made no reference to a worldwide flood.)Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Well golly gosh I don't even care if all the scientists in the world disagree with me if I'm convinced they're wrong about something. As per my signature line, "Belief gets in the way of learning." Perhaps you should stick to the Faith and Belief threads. With your a priori religious bias you are unqualified to do, or even comment on science in any way.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
There would be no way to disprove the Biblical flood if the Bible is true. The flood has been disproved, so obviously the bible is not true in this regard.
There was one body of land at Genesis 1:10 as all the water was gathered to one place in Genesis 1:9. This body of land would have still been in existence at the time of the flood in Genes chapter 6, 7. The earth was then divided into what we see today during the days of Peleg. The last time all the land masses were together was about 175 million years ago.
All the mountains were formed during this division. Which would make it impossible for you to find a trace of a world wide flood. So, you have to also claim there were humans round 175 million years ago, and that the flood occurred that long ago. There is no evidence for either.
But there is no doubt that every inch of dry land we have today was covered with water in the past. Which agrees with Genesis 1:2. There is no evidence for a global flood during historic times.
Lets see now I have 3 scientific facts that support words that were written over 3400 years ago. One land mass.land mass covered with water divided land mass All of which never happened during human history. You're not doing very well, eh?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
As I understand it I'm allowed to start from my biblical premises in this debate. Just because you believe something doesn't make it factual. Nor are we required to accept anything just because you happen to believe it.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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If this clown is really doing science, how is it that he's suing for religious discrimination?
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr. |
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