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Message 2 of 53 (809620)
05-19-2017 3:48 PM
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05-19-2017 3:43 PM


Glad you enjoyed it. Are you familiar with Amazing Grace?

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Message 14 of 53 (809738)
05-20-2017 4:35 PM
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05-20-2017 3:55 PM


Re: Other geniuses
Faith writes:
... to me the story of the black women at NASA was absolutely brand new, and that's what a lot of people say about it, particularly black women.
What is it that was surprising to you?

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Message 18 of 53 (809755)
05-20-2017 9:15 PM
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05-20-2017 9:08 PM


Re: Other geniuses
But isn't that a true indictment of the US in general? How is it possible so many of our population were ignorant of such things?

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Message 20 of 53 (809757)
05-20-2017 9:33 PM
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05-20-2017 9:23 PM


Re: Other geniuses
There are several layers.
First, those running NASA understood that talent was not dependent on race, religious beliefs, sexual preference or sex itself.
Americans though, even those working with such people were extreme bigots.
And finally, those running NASA understood that they could not change the latter while they absolutely needed the former.
As has so often been the story, pragmatism won.

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Message 22 of 53 (809759)
05-20-2017 9:45 PM
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05-20-2017 9:40 PM


Re: Other geniuses
We tend to think of racism as a Southern problem and forget that in the US it was near universal. It's amazing how few people seem aware of our actual history, about incidents like the Zoot Suit Riots or the conditions in the migrant camps or just what "separate but equal" education meant or that women held very high postings in all industries yet were under paid and subject to different standards.
We need to do better in educating the next few generations.

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Message 25 of 53 (809764)
05-20-2017 10:31 PM
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05-20-2017 9:48 PM


Re: Other geniuses
Well I lived in California in the 60s and oh yes it was racist. If you were Mexican or Indian (they weren't Native Americans yet) or black or Chinese you got paid less and passed over for promotion.
That was also true in the Northeast, Midwest and all across the US.
Where was the 12th Street riot?
What led to the Newark Riots?
The list is near endless.

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Message 27 of 53 (809790)
05-21-2017 7:15 AM
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05-21-2017 2:08 AM


Re: Other geniuses
Yet the reality is that all across the country our police were white, our judges were white, all the business owners were white the bosses were white and if you were not white you got stopped if you were in the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time of day, you could not buy a house in the white neighborhood and your school was underfunded and understaffed.
The facts are shown in the race riots of the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s. It is shown in the police grievances. It is shown in the sentencing data. It is shown in the incarceration data. It is shown in the economic data.
It is shown in the fact that so many in the US are still willfully ignorant of the fact of racism in the US.

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Message 31 of 53 (809839)
05-21-2017 2:44 PM
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05-21-2017 1:03 PM


Re: Other geniuses
And that is exactly how such evils exist. For the most part all the parties just continue because "that is how it is".

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