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Author Topic:   A good summary of so called human evolution.
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Message 129 of 184 (809722)
05-20-2017 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by RAZD
05-20-2017 11:48 AM


Re: Which thread do you want this answered on?
Any or all, whatever fits into the topic of the thread.

It was such monumental NEWS that your graph supposedly revealed, that it actually related to all those threads, and is spot on, and worth more discussion on those threads according to the title of those threads.

Then again, you could start a new TOPIC concerning your MISSING LINK for PRIMATES......

My topics dont get approved, but yours surely would. Just try it, dont be ashamed.


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 132 of 184 (810316)
05-27-2017 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by RAZD
05-20-2017 3:37 PM


Re: Ancestors were in clades with different but similar names
Then if your graph is correct, rather than misleading and evasive, THEN who was our ancestor ? From what animal did we come from ?

Dont say chimp or ape, as we were talking about primates... what animal or species did primates evolve from.

Just make a flow chart back to one celled animals, at least try to make an attempt in figuring out your charts.

WE await your revelation or revelations in concise form. Thanks


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 134 of 184 (810344)
05-28-2017 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 133 by RAZD
05-28-2017 7:30 AM


Re: Ancestors were in clades with different but similar names
I agree, you can not answer the question, and yet refuse to honestly admit you dont know.

But you evolutionists did come up with a novelle way of covering up your ignorance with names that differ by only one letter or so.

Its just nomenclature, grouping into man made - evolutionists name classifications.

IE..its called semantics, and more proof that you, evolutionists are expert linguists. You really should have gotten a B.A. rather than a B.Sc.

Dont your students ever tell you these things, but then again you wouldnt allow them to tell you these things or allow you to ask about such things.

But seeing you say we evolved from a common ancestor, we should be now evolving as you speak and write, and branching into new species as we speak..... we should have our people or homonoids evolving into new breeds or kinds which are substantially different than their ancestors.

This meaning at present we all are not exactly the same homonoids, or whatever linquistic term you used.... if not the same then we are by your definitions and so called logic, be DIFFERENT. Hence you are back to proving your theory is racist at heart and soul and by your very foundation.

Evolutionists just keep disproving their theories one after another....


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 136 of 184 (810364)
05-28-2017 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by RAZD
05-28-2017 10:09 AM


Re: Ancestors were in clades with different but similar names
Wake up Razz....

We are. We evolve resistance to new diseases among other things. Those are, not surprisingly, beneficial mutations, and they get selected.

The amazing human body has adaptions built in, by our Creator, you saying that your god of evolution selects them and makes us different than earlier humans is a stretch to say the least. Humans remain humans, whether we have resistances or have lost resistances, or face new man made diseases or old ones resurrected from dead burial grounds.

Humans have not evolved, humans remain humans.

(Artifically shooting our children with so called vaccines that are suppose to build up their resistances have backfired so that they give them disease and autism etc etc...)

The original wins, creationism wins again....


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 138 of 184 (810413)
05-29-2017 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by RAZD
05-29-2017 7:23 AM


Re: Ancestors were humans, humans did not evolve
You must learn to state something, say something, stand on one of your own statements, Razz. Dont be evasive and talk about what I write and discuss and prove, make a statement and verify it with luck and chance statements.

Anyway Humans have not evolved, is what I say and state. You have to state, 'Humans did evolve' and then tell us who are oour ancestors were, without microscopic graphs from others being your cop out. Just state clearly where primates came from, where their forefathers came from backwards to one celled living organisms.

Evolutionists have had decades to figure this out, so state it.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 141 of 184 (810495)
05-30-2017 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by Taq
05-30-2017 10:50 AM


Re: Ancestors were humans, humans did not evolve
Can we therefore call it, NO NAME EVIDENCE....

You call it evidence, I would call it a wild nameless theory.

I thought after all these years, you would have pinpointed some kind of ancestry for us primates...


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Davidjay 
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Message 143 of 184 (810588)
05-30-2017 11:57 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Taq
05-30-2017 11:17 AM


Re: Ancestors were humans, humans did not evolve
Hmmm... on the thread Should we teach evolution and creation in the school system... Razz states

Curiously I got slightly different results from paleos, and your link also now shows chiroptera under Laurasiatheria, not Archonta, while primates are under the sister branch, Euarchontaglires.

In other words, Razz's results or conclusions differ from other evolutionists and evolutionists do not agree and have no confirmed idea where we came from... which is why they are sooo evasive and noncommittal because they just dont know, and they are debating where we came from.... who are the ancestors of mankind were.

Consequently Razz dismisses himself from this query as his results differ so much from other evolutionists... or we can rationally conclude that evolution does not agree on who our ancestors were....

Also note that he uses the word 'BRANCH' which evolutionists and Razz used, yet evolutionists HEREIN keep denying they ever believed in branching. For I was told I was misrepresenting them when I said, their branching theory from one species making a new species is part of the racial doctrine of evolution

SEE Evolution is a racist doctrine thread.

So this new breaking news does clarify that evolutionists are NOT in agreement as to our ancestors, they still dont know.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Davidjay 
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Message 146 of 184 (810753)
06-01-2017 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Taq
05-31-2017 11:55 AM


Re: Ancestors were humans, humans did not evolve
That's not what RAZD said, nor is it what the scientists are saying. What they are saying is that they AREN'T SURE which of those other branches are more closely related to us.

..

Exactly evolutionists aren't sure, where we came from and so are still debating this after years and years... and so Razz seeking recognition of her theory proposes her theory in hopes of the glory of selecting the right branch from whence we came.

Why because evolutionists dont know, and have no idea and are just making it up as they go, and looking for fame and fortune in their diggings and writings.

Thanks for confirming what I have been saying, but it was nicely couched in semantics for the unwary. But there it is, more confirmation that evolutions dont know what branch they are on.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 147 of 184 (810756)
06-01-2017 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 145 by Diomedes
05-31-2017 1:49 PM


Re: Ancestors were humans, humans did not evolve
I think part of the issue in Davidjay's mis-understanding of how branching works stems from the excessive inbreeding that tends to happen within Creationist circles.

I know Dio, you are trying to be cute and nasty at the same time, but the problem is you are being inconsistent with your concepts and your lack of knowledge, as is the case with unconnected evolutionary minds)

Inbreeding is supposedly one of your cornerstone proofs of evolution, as seen by Razz's dog graphics and supposed explanations, and so logically you should not be trying to degrade creationists by saying we inbreed together, as accoording to your religion that can make us better and more viable.

Anyway, lets pose that question to you, which Razz is trying to avoid.

Is inbreedingproof of evolution

Or

Is inbreeding not a proof of evolution ?

One or the other, choose and state it rather than I am always mis understanding your religion, and misrepresenting your supposed science.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Davidjay 
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Message 151 of 184 (810924)
06-03-2017 6:32 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by Diomedes
06-01-2017 1:06 PM


Re: Evolutionists continue to *** and mis*********.
Dio, what you mean to say, is that you haven;t got the logic or intelligence to debate with me, as evolution doesn;t answer your prayers, and all you end up with is 'luck and chance responses' and maybe a few snide remarks.

If you want to defeat me or creationists then tell us who were our forefathers, who were our primate ancestors ? Nobody else can, so give it a try.... or make something up.

Or then maybe a personal attack is all you can muster up because you have no flow chart of humanity. You dont know our ancestors and so 'attack' rather than face your lack of knowledge.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 152 of 184 (810925)
06-03-2017 6:38 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by jar
06-01-2017 11:55 AM


Re: Evolutionists L**
Not true..

Sorry David but once again you are simply lying and misrepresenting what RAZD and others have said.

No one but you has even suggested that inbreeding is proof or anything or of making anything better or more viable.

Thats an absolute LIE, a despicable LIE, as over and over and over again Razz has been trying to con people on Humans and Dogs and Bones, that his inbreeding dog chart shows how variability can lead to evolutionary change.

See that thread and apologise..

But then again, repeat your words to RAZZ and disagree with him and teach him that inbreeding is NOT a proof of evolution.

You evolutionists are so inconsistent and unstable and erratic and evasive, it makes one doubt your sanity and of course doubt your stupid theory.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Davidjay 
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Message 154 of 184 (810945)
06-03-2017 9:50 AM
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06-03-2017 7:52 AM


Re: Davidjay continues to misrepresent what others say.
Of course, since RAZD does not say what you claim he says, there is no need to disagree with him.

Only YOU have claimed that inbreeding is proof of evolution.

Since it is so easy to check claims like these that you make; and since in all cases when checked it shows you are simply lying; is there any reason to think your claims about the God you try to market are not simply more of your lies and as worthless as all the cut & paste shit from your website?

Not so, the evidence exactly states that Razz says over and over and over again that inbreeding is a sign that evolution could have might have, should have surely did make the jump and create a new species, and is proof of evolution......

Its written by him, multiptle multiple times, and is not a MIS REPRESENTATION..... he refuses to take down his doggie inbreeding chart, and now as expected you try and cover this up and deny it.

And yet still you evolutionists are inconsistent as one of you says inbreeding is not a proof of evolution and the majority of you are silent as a graveyard, and others like you say, no one said that and youre a liar and misrepresenting us poor evolutionists who are being picked on (paraphrased for clarity sake)

http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=msg&t=19460

Evolutionists please refraim from mentioning your feces when posting on my threads, use respect rather than disrespect as your tools in debating rather than gross language and inconsistent principles and deceptions. Thanks

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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