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New Cat's Eye
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Message 466 of 993 (799111)
02-07-2017 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 464 by ringo
02-07-2017 12:01 PM


Re: jurisdiction
Arming yourself is not seen as a "natural right" in most places outside the US.
Sure it is, nobody says that you can't pick up that chair leg to defend yourself with.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 468 of 993 (799114)
02-07-2017 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 467 by ringo
02-07-2017 12:21 PM


Re: jurisdiction
As I understand it, in Canadian law (and most civilized jurisdictions) self-defense is not a "natural right" but a mitigating factor - i.e. your punishment may be less if you acted in self-defense.
Section 34 of the Criminal Code of Canada is explicit in justifying you defending yourself from unlawful assault.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 752 of 993 (801530)
03-07-2017 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 750 by Pressie
03-07-2017 8:18 AM


Re: And now it looks like travel bans extend to US Citizens.
It's the right of US citizens to leave and re-enter the US. That's not a privilege. It's a right.
Is it? Where is that established? Why do I have to get a passport? I honestly don't know.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 855 of 993 (809820)
05-21-2017 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 852 by Chiroptera
05-21-2017 10:33 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
the person isn't summarily deported before her legals status is properly verified
How much is that happening?
In other words, these particular lawyers are trying to make sure the laws are obeyed.
And the officials found a legal loophole where that can prevent that.
I mean, yeah - they're dicks, but isn't that how the law works?
Yet, we should give the government complete trust to decide who is or isn't in this country legally and to decide who should or should not be immediately deported.
For the record, I do not agree with that. Just sayin'

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 878 of 993 (809953)
05-22-2017 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 861 by Chiroptera
05-21-2017 1:53 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
Evidently enough that procedures are in place to prevent it.
So hardly ever then, I guess.
But by that logic, these lawyers must be taking advantage of immigrants enough too because there is that law in place that is being used to try to stop them.
Regardless, this doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 917 of 993 (811140)
06-05-2017 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 915 by Tangle
06-05-2017 7:45 AM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
Phat writes:
The religious people themselves would fight such a law.
It doesn't require a law, it just needs a prosperous and educated democratic society with secular law and protection of free speech. It happens naturally if it's allowed a chance.
I'll stop being religious when God stops responding. Consistently increasing my prosperity and education doesn't seem to be having any effect on that
Religions divide and separate people and provide reasons for the corrupt and the mad to do a lot of harm. Time to get rid of the lot of them.
Now that there is just hateful bigotry with some intolerance.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 920 of 993 (811165)
06-05-2017 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 919 by Tangle
06-05-2017 12:09 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
How does he respond?
It's hard to describe. It's non-verbal, but kinda like a Vulcan mind-meld, or something, where I receive imagery and feelings.
Do you meditate? Or do you create any art? Those are some secular activities that can be similiar.
Oh yes it is. You're a American Catholic I believe? Education and prosperity has radically changed what Catholicism is and what it preaches. Your beliefs are radically different from a Catholic in a pre-enlightenment era. They're even different to those of modern third world Catholics.
Your personal beliefs are effectively harmless post reformation. Your head of state no longer has an army or even official torturers - if we forget the global child abuse carried out by its priests. Happily it's lost its financial and political influence over the secular West but sadly not so in the less educated third world.
You were talking about getting rid of it - not keeping and adjusting it.
So sure, my religion is constantly evolving - but I'm still religious. That's what's not changing.
Now that there is just hateful bigotry with some intolerance.
No, it's raging fucking anger and total intolerance.
Yeah, and you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater because you're prejudiced.
We've just had the third set of religious mass murders in three of our cities in less than three months by real bigots chanting Allah's name. Don't lecture me on bigotry and intollerance of religion.
Oh boo-hoo. We had more people killed in St. Louis over this normal summer weekend - only two of them were children.
I guess it's only newsworthy when a religious person does it I kid, I kid.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 921 of 993 (811166)
06-05-2017 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by ringo
06-05-2017 12:02 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
New Cat's Eye writes:
I'll stop being religious when God stops responding.
That's what I did.
When's the last time you honestly sought and submitted to Him?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 924 of 993 (811172)
06-05-2017 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 922 by ringo
06-05-2017 1:18 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
Or maybe He just doesn't like you
It was just a question...

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 926 of 993 (811181)
06-05-2017 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 925 by NoNukes
06-05-2017 3:49 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
You've changed, NCE.
How can you tell?
I sometimes wonder about your new handle. I think I am beginning to understand...
My life's never been better

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