Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9162 total)
5 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 915,817 Year: 3,074/9,624 Month: 919/1,588 Week: 102/223 Day: 13/17 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 858 of 993 (809829)
05-21-2017 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 857 by jar
05-21-2017 12:40 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
I do carry it with me. Obama's is clearly fake.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 857 by jar, posted 05-21-2017 12:40 PM jar has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 865 of 993 (809873)
05-21-2017 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 864 by NosyNed
05-21-2017 10:34 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
I for one would like to see the Leftist spin on it destroyed.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

This message is a reply to:
 Message 864 by NosyNed, posted 05-21-2017 10:34 PM NosyNed has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 867 by NoNukes, posted 05-21-2017 11:24 PM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 869 of 993 (809921)
05-22-2017 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 867 by NoNukes
05-21-2017 11:24 PM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
At least I hate things that deserve to be hated.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 867 by NoNukes, posted 05-21-2017 11:24 PM NoNukes has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 873 by NoNukes, posted 05-22-2017 10:03 AM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 870 of 993 (809922)
05-22-2017 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 868 by vimesey
05-22-2017 8:24 AM


Re: !
I've seen no reason to think he doesn't.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 868 by vimesey, posted 05-22-2017 8:24 AM vimesey has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 871 by vimesey, posted 05-22-2017 9:48 AM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 872 of 993 (809932)
05-22-2017 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 871 by vimesey
05-22-2017 9:48 AM


Re: !
There's a difference between addressing people in the Middle East and considering inviting them into the US. I don't know if he's hoping to encourage the moderates among them or really believes that about Islam. I think it's mostly the former but I'm not sure at this point. Bush really did believe that Islam is a religion of peace, a total delusion. I think it's good to appeal to those Muslims who don't want to live their ideology to the max, but never forget that the ideology itself is a murderous\ totalitarianism.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 871 by vimesey, posted 05-22-2017 9:48 AM vimesey has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 875 by NoNukes, posted 05-22-2017 10:17 AM Faith has not replied
 Message 877 by vimesey, posted 05-22-2017 10:20 AM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 874 of 993 (809937)
05-22-2017 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 873 by NoNukes
05-22-2017 10:03 AM


Re: Sessions' DoJ vs Immigration Lawyers
I hate ideologies, not people. I hate Leftism with a purple passion.
(You have a TERRIBLE reading problem, or logic problem, as I've pointed out before. You just about never get anything right that I say)
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 873 by NoNukes, posted 05-22-2017 10:03 AM NoNukes has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 876 by NoNukes, posted 05-22-2017 10:19 AM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 898 of 993 (811043)
06-04-2017 1:40 PM


The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
22 killed in the Manchester attack, 7 so far in the London attack with many critically injured in the hospitals. Theresa May advises beefing up security and punishments. Trump says it's a reason to speed up his travel ban.
I think it's interesting that nothing has been said about this here. The only worthy news is anything that can be used to criticize Trump apparently, but criticizing Islam, no way.

Replies to this message:
 Message 899 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 1:51 PM Faith has replied
 Message 902 by ringo, posted 06-04-2017 2:35 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 905 by DrJones*, posted 06-04-2017 3:45 PM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 900 of 993 (811050)
06-04-2017 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 899 by Tangle
06-04-2017 1:51 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
So are you one of those UK people who are in favor of admitting lots of these "fanatical loons" into the country?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 899 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 1:51 PM Tangle has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 903 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 2:42 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 906 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 5:40 PM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 901 of 993 (811053)
06-04-2017 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 899 by Tangle
06-04-2017 1:51 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
Interesting that you can't point to Islam alone although it's all coming from Islam. No, you have to pretend all religion is the same. Funny, one way or another Islam the murdering ideology keeps murdering and murdering and also keeps getting a pass even from its victims. France's Macron is all in favor of continuing to admit Muslims. Weird suicidal policies.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 899 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 1:51 PM Tangle has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 904 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 2:58 PM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 907 of 993 (811074)
06-04-2017 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 905 by DrJones*
06-04-2017 3:45 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
I condemn any murderous attack like that. But this is the thread about Trump's efforts to curtail the immigration of dangerous people into the country and those on the agenda at the moment happen to be Muslims, because even though most of them aren't violent (most of them when pressed nevertheless agree with the violence done by the extremists) the extremists act on what they believe their God has ordered them to do: kill people who reject him. Muslims are attacking people in the UK, in Europe in general and also in the US, and in fact, although it doesn't often make the news, all over the world.. Their attacks are ideologically driven, that's the point here. Other murderers have other motives, and none that I know of are decreed by their deity as Islamicists' are.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 905 by DrJones*, posted 06-04-2017 3:45 PM DrJones* has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 956 by NoNukes, posted 06-07-2017 12:04 PM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


(1)
Message 908 of 993 (811075)
06-04-2017 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 906 by Tangle
06-04-2017 5:40 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
I like Trump's policies, but I agree he would do better to stay off Twitter and say nothing until he's had lots of good advice on any given subject.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 906 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 5:40 PM Tangle has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 909 of 993 (811076)
06-04-2017 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 904 by Tangle
06-04-2017 2:58 PM


Re: The "Religion of Peace" Strikes Again...and Again
Didn't my mention that they were doing it for Allah give you a clue?
Yes and thank you for that. But you also slammed "religion" in general.
Religion always gets a pass doesn't it? It's never your religion's fault is it? it's always someone else's religion. In this case it's a version of Islam's fault.
That assumes nothing but blind bias in any criticism of another religion, but I don't criticize Islam or the papacy out of some kind of religious competition but because I know enough about them to know that they are ideologically totalitarian and that Islam orders its rank and file to murder "infidels." Believe me I'd be happy happy happy if this weren't the case and I'd welcome them with open arms.
It's a recognition that it's not ALL Muslims that are the problem, it's a polluted few of them.
They aren't at all "polluted," they are the true Muslim purists, acting on what their religion clearly teaches. The Ayatollah Khomeini some years ago came out and condemned the peaceable Muslims as cowards and as betraying their faith, since the religion clearly calls for the murder of infidels. The religion itself, not the Muslims. The Muslim people are sad victims of their religion.
It is a mistake to speak of any religion "as a whole." The religion is what is decreed in the sacred writings or the highest authority. Christianity decrees peace and dying to self. The only time violence is ever supported is when official war is decreed against a dangerous enemy, and even then some Christians oppose the idea on the basis of the Bible. Never is any kind of personal violence allowed. If it occurs it is a violation of the religion's tenets.
This is not the case with Islam. "As a whole" they are peaceable because they don't practice the violent parts of their religion, for which the Ayatollah Knomeini and other Muslim purists condemn them; they prefer to live peaceful lives, but that's not what their religion decrees, it decrees persecution and murder of nonMuslims. There are some versions of Islam that prefer to interpret the violence in spiritual terms although it takes some mental gymnastics to read it that way. Nevertheless they are probably the safest ones to allow into the country.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 904 by Tangle, posted 06-04-2017 2:58 PM Tangle has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 910 by Tangle, posted 06-05-2017 1:28 AM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 929 of 993 (811197)
06-05-2017 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 927 by NoNukes
06-05-2017 4:09 PM


Re: Trump undermines his case(?).
The problem with Trump is that he isn't a political wheeler-dealer. What you see is what you get. That kind of sincerity can look buffoonish at times of course, but what a breath of fresh air to have a real human being in the Presidency, flaws and all, instead of a polished plotter like most of them, and a human being who really does care about this country, really does care about the Constitution, particularly the freedoms it grants citizens of the USA for whom it was written.
If what he's doing is undermining his case I'd attribute that mostly to his enemies, both Democrats and Republicans, and those in the media, who are everywhere anyone looks these days. There's a strong conservative base for Trump but it doesn't get heard much except off to the side here and there, such as at EvC, where it's easy for the high profile Left to shout us down.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 927 by NoNukes, posted 06-05-2017 4:09 PM NoNukes has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 930 by NoNukes, posted 06-05-2017 8:29 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 932 by Tangle, posted 06-06-2017 2:54 AM Faith has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 933 of 993 (811230)
06-06-2017 3:08 AM
Reply to: Message 932 by Tangle
06-06-2017 2:54 AM


Re: Trump undermines his case(?).
Didn't the Mayor of London recently say something like how people are going to have to get used to terrorist attacks or something like that? I realize that's not what he said in this particular instance.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 932 by Tangle, posted 06-06-2017 2:54 AM Tangle has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 934 by Tangle, posted 06-06-2017 3:16 AM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 941 of 993 (811270)
06-06-2017 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 940 by 1.61803
06-06-2017 1:05 PM


Re: Trump undermines his case(?).
Scum and possibly seriously crazy? I really do not get this view of Trump at all. He's the first politician in years to put into words what most conservatives think and that's why he won. I guess you think we're all scum and possibly seriously crazy? Hatred of Hillary might have been a factor but the biggest factor of his winning was the positive views he expressed about what the country needs in the way of economic recovery and security. The biggest problem we have right now isn't Trump, it's the Left's determination to destroy him, which is the most amazing and ugly thing to ever happen in American politics.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 940 by 1.61803, posted 06-06-2017 1:05 PM 1.61803 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 943 by 1.61803, posted 06-06-2017 1:24 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 944 by jar, posted 06-06-2017 1:33 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 945 by DrJones*, posted 06-06-2017 1:41 PM Faith has replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024