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Message 91 of 114 (808769)
05-12-2017 6:47 PM
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05-12-2017 11:23 AM


Re: Leviathon is crooked serpent of Job 26
My favorite chapter is probably Job 38.
Here the Lord blasts man and mankind, mocking them for their arrogance when they weren't there when the Lord created all things, and the breadth of the Earth..
The diameter of the Earth, you know 7290 miles, the one the heathen and atheists and evolutionist so hate to consider.. fantastic BOOK of JOB, Let'em have it Lord, and He does...
Buck up man, for He demands of them and tells them to ANSWER... But oh how the heathen and atheists and evolutionists hate to answer anything..
Job 38:4
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job 38:8 Or [who] shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, [as if] it had issued out of the womb?
Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
Job 38:10 And brake up for it my decreed [place], and set bars and doors,
Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; [and] caused the dayspring to know his place;
Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Job 38:14 It is turned as clay [to] the seal; and they stand as a garment.
Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.
Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
Job 38:17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?
Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 92 of 114 (808770)
05-12-2017 7:07 PM
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05-12-2017 6:47 PM


Re: Know the Measure of Earth
LamarkNewAge, you see Job is about the beginning when the Lord created the earth, Sun, Moon and stars etc...as stated concisely in Genesis.
Its not myth, its about the Lord blasting the heathen for not knowing the measure of the Earth and the cornerstone of the Earth (Giza etc..)
They dont know the Golden Section or the cornerstone foundation, also called the capstone and refuse to answer when asked questions, because they literally dont know..
Job 38:5 Who hath laid the MEASURES thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
The heathen dont want to know or study the "MEASURES' of the Earth.
Are you starting to catch it now, LamarkNewAge ?

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 93 of 114 (808792)
05-13-2017 8:07 AM
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05-12-2017 7:07 PM


Re: .Lord created all KINDS of Creatures .. Unicorns in Job
LaMark, do notice that as you read Job further, another strange and different and wonderful creature shows up, a UNICORN. Again this is not a myth, just because there are none around now.Many of the Lords creatures have gone extinct according to the design of the Lord, dinosaurs, sea serpents, (Leviathon behemouth) and even beautiful unicorns.
Read Revelations for some even stranger and more powerful and beautiful creatures or creations.... Anyway you could do the simple GOOGLE SEARCH, but many times evolutionists are afraid to do research unless it involves money and their funding.
job unicorns - Google Search
Numbers 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.
Numbers 24:8 God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.
Job 39:9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
Job 39:10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
Psalms 29:6 He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.
Psalms 92:10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
Deuteronomy 33:17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.
Psalms 22:21 Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
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Message 94 of 114 (808964)
05-15-2017 9:21 AM
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07-04-2016 5:57 PM


Original text.. Job 26
Lamarknewage.. the original text is KJV
Job 26
12 He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud.
13 By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
This is talking about the Lord of Lords and King of Kings also called the Creator or Designer of heaven and Earth, hell and all the creatures HEREIN that have ever been HERE.
yes the Lord garnishes the heavens, and Hell is naked before Him, and He smiteth the proud.
And Yes, he created the crooked serpent, and all serpents, whethether sea monsters, or whales, or serpents or snakes, or even the serpent in the Garden....
Totally consistent and comprehensible, and understandable.
It was NOT however before creation in the period of chaos or whatever you stated. It was after Creation when mankind was HERE because we were made in the sixth day of the first week.
Job was written afterwards, after Creation.... Job was a human and not a treeshrew....
We'll get you more dragon verses in Job afterwards....
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.
.

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Message 95 of 114 (811218)
06-05-2017 10:16 PM


This is the thread where the black guy spotted me posting in. Spotted me, not EVC .
Anyway you got words in verses 12 and 13 confused in your posts above. I was going to respond a while back. Rahab is the actual Hebrew word for one thing. Not the English translation. You really need to read a parallel transliteration. Of verses 12 and 13

  
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Message 96 of 114 (811220)
06-05-2017 11:44 PM


Posts 88 and 89 have the confusion of verse 12 words with verse 13.
The word "proud" in the KJV was the translation of Rahab. This is verse 12. Rahab was the actual Hebrew word and not just an English translation.
You feel that the "crooked serpent" in verse 13 was the verse that modern translations use "Rahab" in place of. Actually all translations (new and old - including the King James ) agree here, with the only difference between them being whether a Hebrew word should be translated "formed" (like the older translations ) or WOUNDED like all the newer ones.
Rahab is in verse 12
Crooked Serpent is verse 13
Most fundamentalists try to say Rahab is not the same thing as the crooked serpent, but they aren't the same word, and aren't even in the same verse (or more accurately, not the same LINE, since the verses are inventions of English translation and organization attempts )

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Message 97 of 114 (811492)
06-08-2017 7:07 PM
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06-05-2017 11:44 PM


Re: Job talks about pre flood animals
LaMark, religious cemetarians also called seminarians, study words and definitions and semantics just as the religious biologists called evolutionists study words and word double speak etc etc.... both are the same, and both get paid to use language and translations to confuse their readers and researchers.
Job as I have been noting, speaks over and over again about pre flood animals...... and even prophecy as the Lord chides the worldly for not being around when He created all things, and not knowing the future.....
For they are as nothing before the Lord, but oh how they howl and grind their teeth....
Lets prove this further with the Lords words.... and expland away from dissecting two verses to understanding the whole chapters and whole BOOK.
For you know evolutionists'atheists do want to find excuses for them NOT to be scientific and thorough, they just search for excuses, rather than facts and principles. For they are as nothing to the Lord, in their ignorance and arrogance...and Rahab...or pride.
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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Message 98 of 114 (811505)
06-08-2017 10:15 PM
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06-08-2017 7:07 PM


Re: Job talks about pre flood animals
All translations, and especially the King James, rely on the Septuagint for the Job word definitions.
It translates rahab as whale. But the King James decided to translate it as proud.
The Septuagint text for verse 12 has Rahab being a slain whale.
This is the Jewish translation from before the time of Jesus Christ.
Instead of twisting serpent in verse 13, there is a verse about stars.
I suppose Rahab will always be written off as a creation AFTER the Earth was created, but it isn't what the scholars have determined the text (both the Hebrew and the oldest translation into European languages ) says.
A primeval dragon is a CREATION of God, according to the actual text, so do you accept the facts of sacred scripture?
(I am pleased to tell you that this CREATION Of GOD doesn't add any falsifiable issues to Creationism so far as I know so there won't be any scientific problems to deal with )
Do you accept?

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Message 99 of 114 (811511)
06-08-2017 10:32 PM
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06-08-2017 10:15 PM


Re:
I accept that Job was a pre flood book where the Lord taught a great true story about Job and his belittling friends and ended it with a victory for Job, when he kept his FAITH until the end despite the putdowns of those around him.
Yes the liviathon and behemouth etc... unicorns etc etc.... are there and are proof of pre flood animals and more.....
As mentioned translations are the dominion of word twisters like evolutionists and science fiction writers as well as church writers and their cemetery essays of deceit and cons.
KJV is good enough and straight forward enough and gives us more than enough consistent evidence that fits the geological record and scientific record and dating record...
Besides its principles work and can be tested and proven by the brave..as for talkers and theorists, nothing satisfies them as all they have is theories and semantics.
I love the whole book rather than picking out individual vereses or indiovidual words..... I like the forest rather than the bark of one tree..... as evolutionists love barking at the bark rather than seeing the whole picture or the whole principle or reading the whole BOOK.
IE they always miss the point and HEREIN they miss the whole point of Job....

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Message 100 of 114 (811512)
06-08-2017 10:34 PM
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06-08-2017 10:32 PM


Re: Job on the stars of DESIGN
If you believe in the demented false science of evolution, you will never understand the truth of the stars and the
Lord's creation. Job, like the others was not deceived when he stated that the Lord created all things including
Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades
JOB 9
1Then Job answered and said,
2I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?
3If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand.
4He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?
5Which removeth the mountains, and they know not: which overturneth them in his anger.
6Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
7Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.
8Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
9Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
10Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders without number
For again, if you believe in evolution and the false science where everything is by chance and coincidence and not by
design and not created by the Lord, then you will not be able to answer the questions posed to JOB..... and you will
not be able to understand the sweet influences of Pleiades... (How much more direct can a verse get, that says
Pleiades effects things HERE on EARTH through the Lords Design)
JOB 38
27To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
28Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
29Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?
30The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.
31Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
No one can stop the sweet influences of Pleiades and no one can bind the bands of Orion, for they are from the
LORD of LORDS !!!!
Do you still think the star's design and motions are of the devil and NOT of the LORD ?
(From JobonArcturusOrionandPleiades )
And do notice how it fits perfectly with the discussion and the topic exactly, so as to further the discussion and topic and show all Jobs words about the DESIGN of the Creation and the DESIGN of the stars.
And the evolutionists whined and whined and complained that they dont know anything about these animals much less about the design of the stars....
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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Message 101 of 114 (811518)
06-08-2017 11:16 PM
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06-08-2017 10:32 PM


You seem to reject scripture on its own terms. The question is WHY.
Evolutionary scientists ( and scientists of all stripes ) don't care about the creation of God before the Big Bang ( or whatever creationism teaches was the material used for the origin of the universe ) which is what the Job text is saying that the PRIMEVAL DRAGON is.
Evolution is irrelevant and this dragon is very much a BEFORE time and space (almost ) metaphysical issue.
Science teaches us that physical laws would be all jumbled up in this (hypothetical stage ).
The very laws of physics would be different - "physics don't apply"!
This is strictly a faith issue and one aspect of creationism that can't be falsified (amazing but true! )
Can I ask you something personal David Jay?
Do you reject the scripture because you feel that it is something embarrassing and beneath your dignity?
(I sense that you bring in the fundamentally irrelevant issue of "evolution" out of a desire to be culturally accepted by the academic community, and it clearly has caused you to compromise the plain reading, not to mention the integrity, of the Holy Scripture. )
You need to really understand what a God truly is.
It is God's business if he wants to create a primeval dragon for material to use for the soon to be Universe. Remember that scripture says God created man in his imagination. You are created in the image of God, according to scripture. It doesn't say David Jay created God in David Jay's own image.
Don't worry about what you think is the foolishness of the God of the Bible. Worry about what the Bible says is God's creativity. God has his own mind. I imagine he would tell you to mind yours, while he gets along just fine without your consent and approval of his creative works.
Does it matter if you appreciate his method ?
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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Message 102 of 114 (811569)
06-09-2017 10:10 AM
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06-08-2017 11:16 PM


Re: You seem to reject scripture on its own terms. The question is WHY.
LNA writes:
You need to really understand what a God truly is.
I'd like to hear more about this one!

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 103 of 114 (811571)
06-09-2017 10:13 AM
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06-08-2017 10:15 PM


Re: Job talks about pre flood animals
rahab sounds like a reference to the Great Dragon, satan.
Either "Dragon" or "PROUD" would validate this.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
"as long as chance rules, God is an anachronism."~Arthur Koestler

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Message 104 of 114 (811573)
06-09-2017 10:33 AM
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06-08-2017 11:16 PM


Re: I accept Job and the varied messages within, evolutionists/atheists REJECT Job
No, as mentioned and as I have been writing, Job is a great true account of the life of Job who lived before the worldwide flood. Its not myth, its not metaphysical, it is real life of a real person called JOB.
Evolutionary scientists ( and scientists of all stripes ) don't care about the creation of God before the Big Bang ( or whatever creationism teaches was the material used for the origin of the universe ) which is what the Job text is saying that the PRIMEVAL DRAGON is.
No, this dragon is preFlood and Yes unscientific illogical evolutionary non scientists reject this true History. Bib Bang is a LIE and has nothing to do with nothing except in the minds of unconnected evolution/atheists.
Evolution is irrelevant and this dragon is very much a BEFORE time and space (almost ) metaphysical issue.
No, there is no such thing as before time and space... the Lord created all in one WEEK and created the timing mechanism within with the speeds and rotations and revolutions of His Heavenly Objects or Creations
Science teaches us that physical laws would be all jumbled up in this (hypothetical stage ).
Science is not a living entity, the Lord teaches us through His creation and true science which He created that there is no jumbled up stage. Thats evolutionary'atheistic insanity
The very laws of physics would be different - "physics don't apply"!
Again that is evolutionary fantasy, nothing existed before physics applied. It was a one step instant process via the Lord. Physics did not apply AFTER creation...thats a pure ridiculous- concept or fantasy.
This is strictly a faith issue and one aspect of creationism that can't be falsified (amazing but true! )
Can I ask you something personal David Jay?
Do you reject the scripture because you feel that it is something embarrassing and beneath your dignity?
(I sense that you bring in the fundamentally irrelevant issue of "evolution" out of a desire to be culturally accepted by the academic community, and it clearly has caused you to compromise the plain reading, not to mention the integrity, of the Holy Scripture. )
You need to really understand what a God truly is.
It is God's business if he wants to create a primeval dragon for material to use for the soon to be Universe. Remember that scripture says God created man in his imagination. You are created in the image of God, according to scripture. It doesn't say David Jay created God in David Jay's own image.
Yes, God made us in His/Her Image... See all the places I have been posting this
MadeinHisImage See also the maybe twenty mathematics ratios etc that detail this, then rewrite your comments concerning His IMage. Thanks
Don't worry about what you think is the foolishness of the God of the Bible. Worry about what the Bible says is God's creativity. God has his own mind. I imagine he would tell you to mind yours, while he gets along just fine without your consent and approval of his creative works.
Does it matter if you appreciate his method ?
I appreciate His methods and keep writing about them, according to scriptures and according to science and according to His Design...... although most others do not, if you appreciate them also, so be it.
Onward Christian scientists and writers.
IJP
David

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Message 105 of 114 (811575)
06-09-2017 10:38 AM
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06-09-2017 10:13 AM


Re: Job talks about pre flood animals
Nah, because JOB 26 is detailing Jobs life and trials and tribulations and OTHER preflood animals as well... rather than just a fallen angel DRAGON, or spiritual entity.
Job is detailing or giving a glimpse into real life forms before the Flood
IMHO
According to the whole book of Job..
The rebukes of the Lord against the dumb friends of Job and even against Job himself..... are awesome as He keeps saying over and over again...where were you when I created the worlds and where were you when I designed its foundations etc. etc. etc.
An awesome anti-evolution BOOK of truths and rebukes and final scenario of events for JOB, who learned the power and might and RIGHT of the Lord of Lords
Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

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