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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Right of course, it couldn't be that I expect the conservative interpretation to be the true one, could it?
Nop. It is as you stated; to you the conservative interpretation is a priori the true one.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I have many times rejected conservative views. And I would this time too except I expect it to turn out that the Liberals are doing the usual obfuscating obstructionist bleep.
You did not say that you "expected" anything. No matter what you may or may not have done other times, this time you explicitly stated that the as-yet-unknown conservative position would be the true one and you would reject the liberal position if it differed. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
So let me understand. Most here want Muslims to be free to enter the country with little or no vetting? Any restrictions at all?
That's ridiculous. Your message is a false dichotimy fallacy. There are an infinite number of pssible positions between Trump's illegal order and no control over immigration. Nobody here (or, I bet, anywhere) want's no control over immigration.
Same with people crossing our southern border? No deportations, some deportions?
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Agencies don't stop acting under the previous administration's orders when a new administration comes into power, they continue as usual until they have new orders. I suspect this is just one of those typical attempts to pin something on Trump that has nothing to do with anything he's done.
Agencies have issued new relevant orders under the Trump administration. I linked to and quoted two of them. What's happening is due solely to Trump.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If previous orders are no longer in force and Trump has issued no new orders, ICE should be doing nothing at all.
TRUMP HAS ISSUED NEW ORDERS AND THE AGENCIES HAVE ISSUED MEMOS ON HOW TO ENFORCE THOSE ORDERS. ICE is doing what Trump, and NOT OBAMA, ordered them to do.
You are assuming a lot, that's all.
You are not only assuming that there are no new orders, you are ignoring multiple posts of those very orders. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Well, it's about time the Constitution of the USA was updated to protect the citizens it was meant to protect. Who is it not protecting adequately? Muslims are and were explicitly intended to be under its umbrella.
Our Founding Fathers included Islam
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Donald Trump’s presidency is fake news
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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And it would be much worse for the elderly. Like Faith. And me.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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But they are subsidized.
Far more than in any Republican plan, and the higher premiums especially for the elderly in the Republican plans make that worse. But the Republican plans do provide more freedom, the freedom to not buy what you desperately need and want but cannot afford.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The thing you said originally implied that you think I am stereotyping people... The term "Islamophobia" is ideologically Marxist, the typically Marxist shaming and debunking accusation against anyone who knows that Islam is a dangerous belief system. Stereotyping much? Islamophobia is hatred of Islam, no matter for what reason. You are an Islamophobe.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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{Deleted unwarranted insult}.
I know you think your opinion is justified, and I know you think you cannot ever be wrong, but the real world begs to differ. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Nobody is forcing you to live here. Saud Arabia is nice and not liberal.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Don't forget Jesus said compassion is for wimps. And he hated anyone not in His tribe; remember the parable of the Evil Samaritan.
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JonF Member (Idle past 169 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Oops, you're right. Russia, then. Lots of Christians and about as right wing as you can get. Trump adores the place and its government.
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