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Author Topic:   The economy needs a 3% GDP growth to function well
Minnemooseus
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Message 1 of 50 (813249)
06-25-2017 4:10 AM


I was listening (on National Public Radio, it might have been a BBC show) to an economist type person saying that the U.S. needs to grow the economy (GDP, apparently not the per capita version) at 3% for things to work well. Not at all an easy thing, and being that we have a baby boomers bulge entering into retirement, such would seem to require a massive increase in immigration to supply the needed workers.
Now, I can kind of see that keeping the GDP in proportion to the population as maybe being a good thing, but even now it seems like a big chunk of production is of things of dubious need.
More production requires more consumption, and we are already (largely) producing more that we have any real need to consume. Production/consumption has gone (for the population as a whole) from bare survival, to comfortable survival, to luxury survival, to "more crap than we know what to do with". Of course, such is most extreme for the 1%, and not happening for a lot of the 99%.
It seems to me that a capitalistic economy is a Ponzi or pyramid or something scheme, that is ultimately doomed to "the big crash".
I guess this topic kind of ties into Faith's Marxism topic.
A friend once said "There is a term for unrestrained/unlimited growth - It's cancer."
Moose
Added by edit (also in message 11):
I tracked down a transcript of the radio show I was listening to:
Is It Realistic? Trump Budget Relies On 3 Percent Economic Growth
Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added by edit...

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Minnemooseus
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Message 11 of 50 (813361)
06-26-2017 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
06-25-2017 4:10 AM


Radio show source of message 1
I tracked down a transcript of the radio show I was listening to:
Is It Realistic? Trump Budget Relies On 3 Percent Economic Growth
This topic also connects to one of my earlier topics (which I probably could well have used the message 1 content in had I been better organized):
Economic failure because of productivity increases / excessive productive capacity
Another topic I rediscovered in the process of looking for the above:
Keynesian Economics and Recession Counter-Measures
Moose

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Message 46 of 50 (848695)
02-13-2019 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Taq
10-02-2017 11:22 AM


Re: A Universal Basic Income.
I'm not up to really getting into this discussion, but I just encountered some "food for thought".
Finland Gave People $640 A Month, No Strings Attached. Here’s What Happened.
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