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Author Topic:   How do you define the Theory of Evolution?
CRR
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Message 53 of 93 (813471)
06-27-2017 9:44 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Pressie
06-27-2017 8:10 AM


Re: Jerry Coyne's Definition
And ignore Kerkut's working definitions? Why?
Which do you think is better?

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Message 54 of 93 (813472)
06-27-2017 9:46 PM
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06-27-2017 11:12 AM


Re: Jerry Coyne's Definition
There isn't a single sentence in existence that covers all of evolution.
How much space do you need? Two paragraphs? Three? Take as much as you think is necessary.

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Message 66 of 93 (813604)
06-29-2017 7:54 AM


Jerry Coyne's Definition
Why Evolution is True
Jerry Coyne
Chapter 1 - What is Evolution? p3
quote:
In essence, the modern theory of evolution is easy to grasp. It can be summarized in a single (albeit slightly long) sentence: Life on Earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive speciesperhaps a selfreplicating moleculethat lived more than 3.5 billion years ago; it then branched out over time, throwing off many new and diverse species; and the mechanism for most (but not all) of evolutionary change is natural selection.
Looks like a definition to me.
I have read the whole book; and I have read several other books by noted evolutionists.

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CRR
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Message 68 of 93 (813606)
06-29-2017 8:15 AM
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06-29-2017 7:59 AM


Re: Jerry Coyne's non-Definition
So he wrote a whole book about why evolution is true and never defined the theory of evolution?
You're clutching at straws.

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Message 74 of 93 (813710)
06-30-2017 3:57 AM


Your Definitions
OK so you don't like my definitions, what's your's?

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Message 85 of 93 (813917)
07-02-2017 8:26 AM
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06-30-2017 1:25 PM


Re: Your Definitions
I guess you, like many others, missed the sarcasm in that comment.

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Message 86 of 93 (814074)
07-04-2017 6:17 AM
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06-28-2017 2:54 PM


Re: Jerry Coyne's Definition
We need to know the context of that quote to be able to understand what he's really saying.
Which is why I told you where I got it from.
Coyne turns out to be a outspoken critic of creationists...
Yep, that's why I used his definition, because he is hostile to Creationism. Personally I think Coyne gives a pretty good definition of the theory of evolution here, although I prefer Kerkut's definition for the General Theory of Evolution because it is more succinct.

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Message 87 of 93 (814075)
07-04-2017 6:22 AM
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07-01-2017 5:07 PM


Re: Evolutionary Lineages rather than species?
caffeine writes:
The article you cite is on the right track, in my opinion. The boundaries between two species are no more meaningful than those between genera and families - they're wholly arbitrary and far too much ink and thought is wasted on them. I think arguing that creationists are wrong because speciation has occurred is a mistake. Speciation has no clear, objective definition.
I agree.

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Message 90 of 93 (814136)
07-04-2017 10:04 PM
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07-04-2017 1:58 PM


Re: Evolutionary Lineages rather than species?
How does this affect my definition in Message 3 of the Theory of Evolution?
I think I have said before that you gave quite a good definition.

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Message 91 of 93 (814432)
07-09-2017 7:32 PM


Agree to not agree?
So are we all agreed that we can't agree on a single definition for the Theory of Evolution?

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