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Author Topic:   Genesis and Evolution - Tom Larkin
New Cat's Eye
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Message 2 of 15 (814986)
07-14-2017 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tom Larkin
07-13-2017 6:48 PM


I have just written this short book that I feel align scripture and evolution, and I would like to get comments from this team.
Are you just playing the game where you:
  • assume that the Bible must be saying something that is correct
  • refuse to go against current scientific understandings
  • spin and twist either or both what the Bible says and what science says, so that you can:
  • smoosh together superfluous meaning from the two and claim that they align
Is that what your book is about?

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Message 4 of 15 (815161)
07-16-2017 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Tom Larkin
07-16-2017 3:50 PM


I am just presenting a simple Biblical argument that states the events that occur in Genesis 1 happen before the events of Chapter 2.
Well, one does come before two... but are you saying that there were two creation events, then?
Do you know that according to history Chapter 2 was written before Chapter 1? They're different accounts of the same event that cover different aspects and details of a singular creation. It's not one event happening after the other.
Men and women were created in Chapter 1 and Adam and Eve were created in chapter 2. If you accept this simple biblical logic, this coincides with recent findings that all men alive are genetically descended from a single man, and all women are descended from a single women. Other men and women were existing at the time of this common descendant (Y chrome Adam and Mitochondrial Eve), which is what the Bible says.
Wrong. Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve were not contemporaries - that is, they lived at very different time periods. They couldn't be the Adam and Eve of the Bible.
Men and women, I believe through natural mens lived prior to Adam and Eve.
Okay, but Adam is literally the "first man".
This eliminate the conflict between evolution and Genesis.
Not really, but there's no need to do that.

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Message 14 of 15 (815279)
07-18-2017 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Tom Larkin
07-17-2017 5:35 PM


My main argument is Biblical.
Okay: Adam literally means the first man.
There were no men before Adam.
So your argument that there was is wrong.
If you don't accept the Bible and Adam and Eve than you already have no conflict with evolution, then you don't need to read further.
That smells like a cop-out....
The Garden of Eden myth is not supposed to be a historical event that literally happened in the real world. It is folk lore.
My Biblical argument is men and women were created in Chapter 1, Adam, Eve and the garden were created in Chapter 2.
Yes, you've explained that. It is wrong. Adam was the first man.

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